Gem BU Mercury. Grade?

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  1. toned_morgan

    toned_morgan Toning Lover

    What grade is this mercury dime? I might be a bit too optimistic in saying that it could be MS65 FB, so I wanted your opinions. Thanks for any help!

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  3. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    I don't see why not.
     
  4. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    What’s up with the scratch above the head? Ignoring that scratch, 65-66FB seems certainly doable.
     
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  5. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Okay, after staring at it for a while, I can’t help but wonder if it had a cleaning a while ago?

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  6. Double Die

    Double Die I know just enough to be dangerous

    That's one fine lookin coin you got there! I give it a solid 65 and if it weren't for the line over the head and the sqiggles under EPU, an easy 66.
     
  7. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    65FB sounds reasonable
     
  8. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I think the answer to your question is completely luster dependent. If the coin has gem luster it should be MS65FB. Unfortunately, I can't say with any confidence that the luster is that good based on those photos.
     
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  9. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    Is the line between B and E on the Obverse on the slab?
     
  10. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    I'm going to say MS65FB if sent in.

    The line which idk if is on the holder or the coin hurts it. Also I can't tell if that's a scratch or in relief above her wing. But that cheek is just smooth as a baby's behind.

    Personally, I think it *should* grade it MS64+ considering those three flaws.
     
  11. frankjg

    frankjg Well-Known Member

    I wonder if the seller is known to take realistic pictures of their coins or if they play with the images. I honestly don’t know as I’ve never bought anything from them.
     
  12. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    What are you talking about? Is the OP a seller.... Or???
     
  13. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Yes, those absolutely have the appearance of cleaning hairlines. First thing I noticed was the obverse scratch above Liberty's head, but when I scrolled down those hairlines are prominent and extensive.

    UNC details, harshly cleaned from me.
     
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  14. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    Jason, what about the metal flow in left and right Obverse fields? This is why I didn't immediately think harshly cleaned.

    My eye was "drawn" to the scratch too.
     
  15. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I think the coin was worked on at some point. I would not be shocked to see it straight graded.
     
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  16. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    How are the flow lines undisturbed? Or am I just seeing this from photographs? Enlighten me.
     
  17. frankjg

    frankjg Well-Known Member

    I believe the OP is a potential buyer of this coin which is on eBay.
     
  18. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    The obverse is fine, except for the scratch. We aren't talking about the obverse. We're talking about the reverse. A coin can be very harshly cleaned in just one area, and the rest of the coin will look fine.

    Look at those fine diagonal lines that extend from the letters "TED ST" into the field, over the leaves, and across the fasces. Those aren't supposed to be there. Those fine, tight, perpendicular lines that go over the devices and into the fields are an absolute sure sign of cleaning.
     
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  19. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    Gah. Thanks for the correction. I assumed it was metal flow. :eek:
     
  20. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    That's where this one gets you - the pictures are detailed enough that you can see some of the metal flow, like we've been talking about in the luster thread. You have to look carefully to catch the sudden change in direction in the reverse top left quadrant. If you were able to rotate this one in the light, that should stick out like a stubbed toe. Fortunately, these pictures are actually pretty high quality, and you can see the hairlines very clearly. You just have to concentrate on the details and subtleties.
     
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  21. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    Yes, in hand it would probably be more apparent. Now that you mention it there's a very subtle "area" I now see where the hairlines begin and blend into the flow. Thanks Jason. I'm always learning something new.
     
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