Featured YouTube Numismatic Misinformation: What You Need To Know

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by 1916D10C, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    That is an ironic Youtube username for someone on your Youtube Wall of Shame.
     
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  3. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    I unfortunately can't edit this post to add more to "The Wall Of Shame".
     
  4. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    I wish the mods would fix that and allow edits for a few weeks at least. Is there anyway to create a special thread that you can constantly add new names?
     
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  5. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    I don't think so on this forum.

    But I covered the most egregious that I know of. Couch Collectibles is at the top for good reason. :hilarious::rolleyes:
     
  6. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Oftentimes, especially for those who are or ever have been government employees, the best piece of advice is this: Think INSIDIE the box
     
  7. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    If young collectors are like the rest of this generation they are looking for instant gratification. If a hobby needs to be worked at it can't be any fun. When I was young (and even now) we knew that you could go months without finding anything relevant (coin to fill a space). If we try to make it too easy for newcomers it will cease to be a hobby. We need to supply the tools, mechanics, education and encouragement. Then, they need to do the searching with the realization and understanding that every new piece is relevant.
     
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  8. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Welcome to CoinTalk. Lots of very informed people on the site.

    I assume from your nickname, you collect Lincoln Cents. Do you have pictures of any of them? Which is your favorite?
     
  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    JCro57, posted: "Oftentimes, especially for those who are or ever have been government employees, the best piece of advice is this: Think INSIDIE the box."

    Serious question: I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Sorry. If you have the time, would you please give an example of thinking OUTSIDE the box and INSIDE the box with regards to numismatic misinformation on U-Tube. Thanks in advance.
     
  10. STU

    STU Active Member

    I never use utube and I do my homework and research as much to day as I did when I started in 1964
     
  11. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    I don't believe anything I see and only some of what I hear on U-TUBE...full of misinformation, mistakes, and made-up info, except for the correct stuff. :bag:
     
  12. Bambam8778

    Bambam8778 Well-Known Member

    I'll stick up for some of the you tubers for a moment here. I started collecting a long time ago and really had no direction or drive. Off and on as the story is with so many of us. What has gotten me hooked again and this time for good was watching you tube videos from many different people AND being here on Coin Talk. There are some very poor quality channels and advice out there. No arguments there. There are some great channels who are purely informative and then there are the ones who have a plethora of different things to catch your attention. These people can be spot on for 99.9% of the time and the keyboard warriors will remember and consistently attack the .1% they were wrong. I can even claim to be a keyboard warrior from time to time but I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. If you are creating a youtube channel, a blog, a podcast or a forum there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with wanting to monetize this and make it work for you. Nothing at all. Links to things you are selling, charging people to access a site that you have made, charging to offer advice, selling ad space for relative information. All of this is rather smart when it comes to the social side of coin collecting.
    I love to listen to JBCoins and Blue Ridge Silver hound when they give a market update with something that recently sold on Heritage or one of the major shows. I really enjoy when they bring up an oddball find or throw out some info on a modern that I may have forgotten about. I follow the ANA & PCGS. Both have great information and talks to listen to. Market updates and the like. I like to watch Quinn's Coins from time to time and get lost in a coin hunt while I'm hunting through my rolls. Silver Picker is one of the most upbeat guys that deals with coins/silver/picking and the like that I have found. Has some good info on there and really pumps people up to want to be in the realm of all of this and participate. I love to watch his videos!
    What it boils down to is that young people/old people and everyone else in-between that we want to be in the hobby need to be hooked and you can't do that by doing nothing. If youtube is what it takes to hook them then by all means, let it happen and do your part in this hobby to help inform people with bad knoweledge what they need to know and what is correct. You can be smart enough to take away from any of these channels a little bit of advice or enthusiasm and if you are turned off by watching 2 guys hunt 1/2 dollars for an hour or two it doesn't mean that it isn't good for the teenager who just discovered it. Remember, whomever got you in to the hobby didn't know everything and more than likely past on some bad advice to you at one point in time.
    Grow within yourself and help grow the community.

    (Had to edit this and give a shout out to the guys who keep me company on my long commute to work. Coin Show Radio and Coin Week podcast)
     
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  13. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    This mentality from the old days is one of the problems with the hobby. The easier it is for newcomers the bigger the hobby grows. If you enjoy having to wait months on end reading books before buying something, more power to you but most people aren't like that.

    This idea that there should be some sort of tuition paid or lumps to take for being new in the hobby from people that just want to find coins they like to buy is a long held outdated approach.

    So many people are always over blowing how the hobby is dying and this and that, the one thing that actually could kill the hobby is by making it difficult for newcomers to get their feet on solid footing.

    You don't have to disclose how you figured out how to make money in the hobby or anything like that, but it without question should be easy for someone to go out and make their first purchases as they are learning.
     
  14. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I do agree with you. I think you read more into my statement than I intended. I have a very substantial accumulation of coins. I give many of them away each year to young people that I hope will start. I just gave away 5 Twentieth Century Type Sets to some young folks (1 cent to $1). Actually, some of the coins were late 1800's. My point was generalizing about the instant gratification this generation displays. Didn't intend to rub anyone the wrong way.
     
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  15. CasualAg$

    CasualAg$ Corvid Minions Collecting

    @1916D10C : Thank you for this posting. Though I’ve never thought to look for numismatic information on YouTube it’s always good to shine a light on what the morally challenged are up to.

    Thanks, again.
     
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  16. CasualAg$

    CasualAg$ Corvid Minions Collecting

    @Inspector43 wrote “If we try to make it too easy for newcomers it will cease to be a hobby.”

    Are you referring to Amateur Radio?
     
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  17. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    I don't agree at all. No matter how much information there is on the hobby, experience rules. This is the case with almost anything that requires skill. Reading and studying the hobby is crucial, but reading and then applying that knowledge to coins and examining them in hand is a whole different world. That's when you truly begin to learn. One can read all the books and sources on Numismatics he wants, look at coins on the internet, and parrot back all the information, but that does not make him an expert, nor does it make it any easier without actual ability to apply it to evaluating coins.
     
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  18. Good Cents

    Good Cents Well-Known Member

    Attn Moderator: This thread should be "Pinned" to the top of the list.

    A lot of us newcomers have done searches on Google for information and have landed on YouTube and watched some of the videos there. It's impossible to know who to believe, who is giving good information or misleading information.

    Thank you for this info. It's priceless and should be pinned to the top of the list for permanent reference for all.
     
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  19. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    One thing you will find on these threads is the habit of reading one piece and not considering the entire thread and how that piece came to be.
    The feeling that I got out of this thread was that "the hobby" was teaching newcomers how to buy coins without getting cheated. I feel like we should teach how to find the right coins for the direction the newcomer wants to take the hobby.

    From my initial post:
    "We need to supply the tools, mechanics, education and encouragement."

    My follow-up post to @1916D10C: I think you read more into my statement than I intended. I have a very substantial accumulation of coins. I give many of them away each year to young people that I hope will start. I just gave away 5 Twentieth Century Type Sets to some young folks (1 cent to $1). Actually, some of the coins were late 1800's. My point was generalizing about the instant gratification this generation displays. Didn't intend to rub anyone the wrong way.
     
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2019
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  20. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I don't think so. Who ever said that Amateur Radio could be easy? One of the toughest licenses to acquire.
     
  21. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Yeah. That first strike stuff kills me. What a gimmick
     
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