Possibly a low grade 1827 O-148 need your thoughts

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by BustHalfNut, Jan 26, 2019.

  1. BustHalfNut

    BustHalfNut Member

    I've been looking very closely at this one, and am convinced I have it...really. I have gone through the entire Overton book and it's definitely an 1827 since no other variety from any other year is even close. There are a few other 1827's that are similar, but nothing lines up as a perfect match except the 148, unless I'm missing something.

    Notice the following points in comparison with the pics of the known F12 example also pictured:

    1. Stars 6 and 7 align in the same way with the dentils.
    2. Stars 4-5 are slightly closer than 5-6 and 6-7
    3. Stars 7 (pointing high), 8 and 13 seem to be spaced/positioned relatively correctly.

    4. Notice the left side of the scroll relative to the D above (you can make it out if you try).
    5. Notice the right side of the scroll intersecting slightly right of center on the base of the M above.
    6. Look very closely and you may see a faint evidence of the dot above the beak. I look under magnification and can almost see something if I concentrate but can't be too sure. Nevertheless some known 148's are missing the dot entirely even in better grades, and certainly a weak dot could be worn off. This proves nothing either way.
    7. The bottom 3 pics are a 2-image overlay (blend) that I did with a known VF35 and the 50c position and spacing seems an exact match.

    Anyone have any thoughts?

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  3. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    One thing I noticed is how narrow the second vertical shield stripe (gule) from the left is compared to the others. Evidently this reverse was used to strike 1827 O-143 and 1827 O-148. The obverse of O-143 does not match your coin, but the obverse of O-148 seems to match. Unless there is another reverse with the narrow second gule (and that matches all of the other things you pointed out), I would be fairly optimistic that it’s O-148. That said, @okbustchaser should be able to provide a more definitive answer.

    http://maibockaddict.com/1827-o-143-r3-capped-bust-half-dollar

    http://maibockaddict.com/1827-o-148-r6-capped-bust-half-dollar
     
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  4. BustHalfNut

    BustHalfNut Member

    Very interesting, I had not even noticed that. I have just checked all of the other 148's in Coinfacts, and they're the same as well. I went through all of 1827's again and no others that are even close to the same have this feature you mentioned as far as I can tell. Thanks for pointing that out............

    This is what's being mentioned, just to be sure (circled in white).

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    Last edited: Jan 26, 2019
  5. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    Yep, that’s the one.
     
  6. BustHalfNut

    BustHalfNut Member

    Would anyone else have an opinion?
     
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