the penny RED mistery

hi, what mystery is hidden in the RED penny? because none of the sellers of these penny RED wants to say and unveil how it has kept and where its penny has been kept for over 70 years to still be unbelievably a RED today! Is this kind of conservation a miraculous recipe? ... or a doubt arises if you hide behind these famous and expensive RED some chemical formula that would transform in 5 minutes today the most common penny BROWN in RED? your answers are well accepted! regards

 

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Didn't realize the red cent was so mysterious. If you want red, sandpaper would work.

 

Gianni..... That would be simple luck. There is absolutely no possible way to determine how or if a coin will tone once it leaves the mint. I have seen cents still in sealed mint sets that have become tarnished. I have seen cents with no regard given to their storage that look as new as the day they were minted. If we knew the answer to that we would all have perfect red cents.

 

@gianni how about going back to your previous posts and actually putting your nose to the grindstone, learning about the issues you have previously brought up, and being, thus, able to understand the coins you have already shown, instead of starting a new thread to go off on another tangent. A tangent, I must say, that seems, IMO, to have a great chance of having any answers we give you gloriously ignored, so you can start off on another tangent again.

 

There are a few early red cent survivors, it's all about storage and luck.
https://www.legendnumismatics.com/inventory/

 

yes, a new discussion just to allow others to enter the topic. be my idea but I think it is impossible to find in RED penny stored for 70 years and beyond, for me to be illogical. I think there is some chemical theory that shows the red color after some time and that there is a big speculation that they buy in BROWN and the day after they are certified RED the same penny bought the day before speculating a lot. I do not want to know the chemical formula but I think that in many people think like me and I would like to share free opinions of other users of the forum

 

Which he could have easily figured out had he read and paid attention to the info I just gave him on PCGS's definitions of colors of cents in his previous post, to wit:


Note: I have underlined the pertinent portion

What this means: If Improper long-term storage, moisture and change of climate probably turned the original Red surfaces into completely Brown surfaces over time. then Proper storage, no moisture, and a constant climate (climate controlled for proper preservation) should be what keeps red cents from turning brown over time.

 

...well, this being the RED conservation theory of PCGS, maybe for you to be enough but not enough for me! do you want to forbid other users to express their opinions?

 

If you want to know why new and different people aren't chiming in with responses to your boringly, repetitive threads, it's because you are beating a dead horse and they don't want to get sucked into your diatribes.

Chris

 

Again you go to accurate answers not being enough for 'you', the master of knowledge and non-knowledge. Yet you consistently start threads asking for knowledge. You, sir, seem most to qualify as a troll, IMO. As in someone who is looking to be argumentative and looking to continually draw people into a state of drama.

Until you learn that your own ideas of what it is that constitutes valid answers for a subject you know little to nothing about are not good, then you will continue to have the problems you have had so far.

I think, by far, your posts exemplify some of the most obdurate self-aggrandizing behavior I've seen on this forum., i.e. your threads 'take the cake'.

 

Oooh! I like 25c words like "obdurate" and "self-aggrandizing".
Where should I send the 50c?

Chris

 

PM me. Make sure it is a very nice Barber.

 

What if I sent you a nice RED Kennedy?

 

Well, not my first choice, but if you insisted (lol).

 

NOTGOINGTOHAPPEN!

Chris

 

@gianni there are a few chemists here, including myself, although I am an organic chemist. I think I have a way to change brown copper coins fully red, although it is tricky. Copper cons tend to turn brown over the ages due to the formation of copper oxide. If you can protect them from atmospheric oxygen, you are going a long ways towards preserving the original "red". What country are you in? Are there any "red" copper coins from your country that are 70+ years old?

 

No! No! No! You've said enough already!

Chris

 

Red cents from 1934 or so are pretty common because they were stored in rolls which protected them from the environmental factors that would discolor the surfaces. About thirty years ago, I spent a fortune assembling a wheat cent collection of all raw red cents. I recently pulled out my old Dansco album to look at them and found that they had almost all turned brown. That may not seem like a big deal, but at today's prices, I lost a mid-sized house in value. I am now working on an all certified red cent collection in the hopes that they will remain red for many years to come. Most importantly, I will be storing them in my (safe for coins) safe at home which is in a climate controlled area and filled with desiccates that will help reduce the humidity in my safe. These coins will be about as well protected as they can possibly be, but that is still no guarantee that they will not eventually turn brown.

 

Otay! Otay! I'm gonna scuse mysef and have an ice queem samwich.

Chris