Henry VIII "Old Bust" Groat

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Mat, Jan 24, 2019.

  1. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I have wanted a Henry VIII "Old Bust" for some time and won this at a respectable price.

    Despite its wear, there is still a good portrait left.

    Took some help from another board to get the right type and was glad it was a lifetime issue.

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    Henry VIII (1509-1547 A.D.)
    AR Groat
    Third Coinage
    O: D. G. AnG. FRA. Z hIB. RЄX, , crowned bearded bust half right, rose after rex. , Laker bust A.
    R: C[IVI] TAS BRIS TOLIЄ, royal coat-of-arms over long cross fourchée; lis in forks; pellet below third quarter of shield; rose after TAS, lis before BRIS; pellet on inner border.
    Bristol mint; im: -/WS “monogram of William Sharrington” Struck circa 1546-1547.
    2.45g
    26mm
    North 1846; SCBC 2372

    Here is my young bust.

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    Henry VIII (1509-1547 A.D.)
    AR Groat
    Second Coinage
    O: hЄnRIC’ VIII D’ G’ R’ ΛGLIЄ Z FRΛnCЄ, crowned bust right (Laker bust D); saltire stops, Lombardic lettering.
    R: POSVI DEV’ ΛDIVTORЄ’ mЄV’, royal shield over long cross fourchée; saltires in forks, double saltire stops, Lombardic lettering.
    Tower mint; im:arrow, 1526-1532 A.D.
    25mm
    2.55g
    SCBC 2337E; North 1797
     
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  3. alde

    alde Always Learning

    Nice find. i didn't realize there were lifetime coins with 3/4 view portraits of Henry VIII. Very cool.
     
  4. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Nice coins @Mat

    Here is my only coin of henry VIII. It is a groat.

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  5. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    I still need the old "Great Harry" bust Groat. I like your example @Mat
     
  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    When flans are very thin it becomes important that the surfaces of the two dies have the same curve or flatness. If the die bulges in the middle, you can get a decent portrait but no legend but if the center of the die is very slightly cupped, you can get legends with a poor portrait. Between this factor and the poor metal flans, Henry's 3/4 coins are hard to find nice. You have a nice face for a Henry. I have more legend and less face.
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  7. brandon spiegel

    brandon spiegel Brandon Spiegel

    Defintally a cool coin!
     
  8. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Good example, Mat! I really like the 'old head' types showing the king as he appeared in his later years. Definitely not the guy you wanted to cross.

    My example:

    Henry VIII Old Head Groat OBV - 1.jpg Henry VIII Old Head Groat REV - 1.jpg
     
  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Still a nice coin, Doug.

    Great coin, Eduard.
     
  10. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Pretty neat coin Mat
     
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