how do you spot fake Trade Dollars, anyway?

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  1. Fiz

    Fiz New Member

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  3. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com Supporter

    I'll have to photo mine. It's a cleaned unc obverse although reverse is quite nice. I bought it in the early days of Heritage from their 1988 Fall DEA sale. It wasn't DEA seized property: those were stacks of early (1795-1804) $5 & $10 gold pieces.

    Paid too much for it but I don't know of Chinese counterfeits being a big problem in the 80's.
     
  4. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    That one is not real. 1883 is a proof only year and proofs are extremely well struck. The weakness in the design in the centers and the mushy poorly defined denticles around the border are obvious signs
     
  5. Fiz

    Fiz New Member

    A friend of mine got these boxes of coins after her ex husband died and she just asked me if i could find anything out about them..there are all different kinds i just started with the trade dollars and i couldnt tell at all if they were real or not after researching forever online lol so i just decided to join and get some more seasoned opinions
     
  6. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    The 1879 is another fake. Same reason
     
  7. Fiz

    Fiz New Member

    Ok thanks a bunch for your help
     
  8. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Post what you have. Chances are there’s some real coins in there too
     
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  9. Fiz

    Fiz New Member

    I also took a picture of a silver 3 cent coin i believe, i have never seen a coin like that so i took a picture of it..heck i have never even heard of the trade dollars lol
     
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  11. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    00D968AE-0E40-4916-8D33-84C80EAEA6D5.jpeg FE29ABCD-C8A1-4FD8-88E9-12EB474D95E2.jpeg C7D50D0F-EDD3-4ABE-A161-3BD61AA7A168.jpeg 39C091AF-B6D3-45AC-9E67-5E280862D7B2.jpeg F4257E44-6F50-4853-98F1-860B75C2ABB3.jpeg 3EADD5F6-F193-4A22-932D-12E82DD71FCD.jpeg BDFC8BA3-01C9-49FB-B953-73E2154FADC7.jpeg 48DC8FF5-A120-4A41-9BD5-075B6413D119.jpeg Here’s a few real proof trade dollars to compare details to
     
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  12. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

  13. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    That is without a doubt, a FAKE.
     
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  14. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

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  15. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Thanks. I thought so but was having a really hard time seeing the pics in my phone
     
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  16. Fiz

    Fiz New Member

    Sorry not the best pics i know but thanks for all the help..i wonder if the whole lot are fakes lol
     
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  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Nope, sorry. As @C-B-D said, digits are wrong; also, that blank spot down the middle of the shield wouldn't appear on a real coin.

    It's possible the whole lot are fakes, but don't go throwing them out just yet. :)
     
  18. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Hi all, I started this thread as a place to post information on how to determine if trade dollars were real or counterfeit, not as a place to post suspect coins for opinions and not as a thread for posting any suspect coin (ie, 3 cent pieces). I realize I have no control over these matters, but if members would post coins they have questions about in a separate thread, and use this thread mainly for reference (as intended, with updates or corrections to diagnostics for fakes/genuine trade dollars) I think it would be less cluttered and more useful. Just my opinion.
    Great looking proofs, Mainebill, nice images for comparing to questionable coins.
     
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  19. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Agreed. Why don’t you start a real or fake thread and post pics of what you have. Thanks ksparrow. I wish I could get them some friends but with an infant son my coin collecting in any major way has been put on temporary hold
     
  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Fiz, when you post an image please select full size. I can't really see anything on these images because they are too tiny. And when I enlarge them to a viewable size it just destroys the image.
     
  21. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Hey, I'm just glad you had time to post what you have! Hope you all are getting some sleep. As always, family first!
     
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