Another Ebay Misrepresented Coin

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by mralexanderb, Feb 6, 2008.

  1. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    I won this auction for a bit more than I wanted to pay. I thought the pictures were possibly tweaked and it turned out to be the case. Check out the pics on the ebay site.


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    1921"HIGH RELIEF"PEACE DOLLAR HIGHEST GRADE MANY PIX BU (300190534990)


    I emailed the seller thru ebay and told him I was returning the coin for a full refund because the coin was NOT BU. There are many scratches on both the obverse and the reverse. I believe his pictures were altered to hide these blemishes.

    Check out the 10x mag pictures. The blue ones are my pics and the bronze ones are his. (Can't see a scratch in any of his pictures.)

    I haven't heard back from him, bald514, yet.

    What do you think, guys?

    Bruce
     

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  3. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Looks like someone cleaned it with the proverbial brillo pad. That's to bad it was a nice looking coin.
     
  4. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Edit: my mistake....
     
  5. Oldman

    Oldman New Member

    good luck.
     
  6. SmokeMonkey

    SmokeMonkey i brake for peace dollars

    thats like seeing swirls in a freshly waxed car. its grounds for a beat down.
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Looks like it is time for his first neg.
     
  8. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    Even in the seller's images the coin looks unnaturally bright and I would have guessed it was cleaned. In your images it is more obvious.

    Regardless of what happens with the seller, I hope you will use this experience as a reminder of 1) the dangers in buying coins on a sight unseen basis when there is no mention of a return privilege and 2) the fact that images are often inaccurate/misleading - sometimes unintentionally so and other times, purposely.
     
  9. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    He does have a lot of pix in the auction. Don't hink they are the coin you have thoug.
     
  10. mr merc

    mr merc Senior Member

    Either not the coin you have or he doctored the pics in photoshop or some other program. Hope you can get your money back.
     
  11. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    Mark, Thanks for the advice. However I've bought before with nice photos just to get coins a grade or 3 lower than what they were purported to be. The last 1921 HR Peace $ was the same way. I returned that one too. This one's going back. Either he accepts the inevetible or I'l go thru paypal first then my credit card co. It has gotten to the point that when I want to buy a good quality coin I'll look at a local dealers, go to a show, shop here on this forum, or on a trusted online seller that many of our CT'ers have mentioned. What else can I do?

    Ebay is really turning me off to raw coins sold there.
    edited

    Bruce
     
  12. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    Bruce, it sounds like you know the answer to your question - avoid uncertified coins on Ebay and make use of the other sources you mentioned. If the seller gives you a hard time, I'd recommend pointing out that the listing didn't say no returns and that the images were extremely inaccurate, even if it was unintentional. Best of luck.
     
  13. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    Not trying to rap on your typing but, Clembo, did you mean that the coin he pictured isn't the one I recieved? I could return them for that alone.

    Either way he's getting them back & I'm getting my $$ back.

    Bruce
     
  14. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    I'll not neg him if the return is smooth. I might give him a neutral depending on the vibes he sends out. If all goes well then I'll drop the whole thing and agree to mutual cancellation of sale etc.

    Bruce
     
  15. Coinman1974

    Coinman1974 Research, Research, Research

    Bruce,

    I would go one step further. Avoid Ebay, unless you are sure you are getting a deal, to some degree. I have for the most part stop buying coins on Ebay with the exceptions of a few dealers on there. The other stuff I buy is Christmas presents for everyone else :D:D

    Regards,
    S
     
  16. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    No problem by me Bruce.

    Yep, that's what I'm thinking. Of course I don't do photoshop and all that stuff but the coin YOU picture shows wear (and a lot of scratches most likely caused by cleaning) to me and I HATE grading Peace dollars. Even if it IS the same coin he doctored the hell out of those photos.

    Different coin or false advertising. Name your poison. ;)
     
  17. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Honestly the auction pics make it look cleaned, has a very un-natural look to it. Might just be the photoshop or whatever, but I would definetly return.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
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