The New York International Coin Show

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Terence Cheesman, Dec 30, 2018.

  1. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    The live auction starts tomorrow in NY.
     
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  3. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    The ones I've consigned to Triton have been off of my website for a while so I'm guessing @PeteB will have not seen those, but yes, I've been doing a bit of Spring (or rather, winter) cleaning :)

    The auction is Tuesday/Wednesday and while it is last minute, I'm happy to provide viewing notes if anyone has questions on coins in the sale, regardless of if they are part of my consignment - just drop me a message.
     
  4. Nap

    Nap Well-Known Member

    I will be there Friday and Saturday, nerding out on medieval coins.
     
  5. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I have never been to an auction in person. Do you have to show credentials, or can anyone attend and bid?
    John
     
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  6. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    If you have bought from the firm before you can just attend and bid.

    I got bidder numbers from Heritage, CNG, and The New York Sale on Sunday. Heritage asked me my name and pulled up my customer info, printed my name and address on a sticker and stuck it to their half of the bidder sheet. CNG did not have a sticker printer but they recognized me. The New York Sale didn't know me but let me do it all anyway. No one asked for any government ID.

    Last year Spink was the only firm that actually wanted more. I declined, planning to bid through the web site, but then screwed it up and didn't get to bid on an obol I wanted. So don't do that!

    I suspect if a total unknown started winning all the lots they would slow down and check things out. I've never seen that happen.
     
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  7. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    I hope the current stock market collapse won't affect the prices realized by consignors.
    For bidders, it may be a boon. We'll see.
     
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  8. akeady

    akeady Well-Known Member

    It's actually likely that people will spend more on coins, if the returns from the stock market are low - not that coins are necessarily a good investment. The prices at the Heritage and so far on Triton have been high and it's been claimed that a South American billionaire is spending megabucks (literally!) on coins.

    ATB,
    Aidan.
     
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  9. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Bravo to that SA billionaire:happy: If, I where in his shoes I'd do the same. But, you have to be knowledgeable and smart at same time. You could blow a Billion in one year on coins, easily. At Triton session two, many of the Prieur coins (2-5) known in high quality where going cheap. US coins same rarity would have commanded 6 figures. Many coins that are not rare, went for crazy unrealistic prices, Gupta AV Staters/ Lydian AV Staters/ fractionals....
    John
     
  10. Nap

    Nap Well-Known Member

    While this may be technically true, it wouldn’t be very sensible. You won’t stay a billionaire very long doing stuff like that.

    Dell Loy Hansen is spending a large amount of money on high grade US coins including the classic rarities and early proof coins, and while it’s more money than I can fathom, I don’t think he’s spent anything close to a billion.

    It does make you realize though that there are just a whole lot of coins out there.
     
  11. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Okay I will be there. I have already met a couple of people from this group and I am hoping to meet more. I will be wearing a grey jacket grey pants and a scarf.I should have a grey bag which I use to shove books into. Again looking forward to seeing some of you
     
  12. Andrew McCabe

    Andrew McCabe Well-Known Member

    For all those attending NYINC in person, I wanted to emphasise the value and importance of viewing coins in person. I attach five images that compares my own photos of coins available for viewing at NY, with the vendor pictures. I assure you that my photos reflect what the coins look like in hand. I think these contrasts tell their own stories. Hopefully this will prompt attendees today or tomorrow in the Hyatt to walk over to the stand in question, and ask to see all the coins in the relevant auction (e-sale) (yes, they are there). Those who collect the sort of coins that I do will recognise where these coins come from. Untitled 1.jpg Untitled 4.jpg

    The differences are scary. They made me pretty unhappy. Go look and see.
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  13. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    @Andrew McCabe , what criteria did you use to pick the vendor?
     
  14. frankjg

    frankjg Well-Known Member

    Here are a few of my pick ups from NYINC. Nothing major but checked off a couple of coin types I don’t have.

    Still working on the attribution of the cup coins as they were pulled out of a bag full of them.

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    Trier Mint
    3.4g (on the heavy side)


    Cup coins
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    I also picked up a serrated from Syria but too lazy to take a picture. My fireplace is just too damn cozy.

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  15. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    Some random photos of NYINC for those of you who need to be tempted to participate next year.

    Viewing Triton Lots:

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    What Triton looks like in Progress at the beginning of day 2.

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    A tray of beautiful Aes Grave for sale:

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    The Bourse:

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  16. Carausius

    Carausius Brother, can you spare a sestertius?

    Great coin you're holding...:joyful:
     
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  17. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    Thanks for sharing.
    Attending the show is a bit like a trip to an ancient coin museum. You looked at some great pieces. There are plenty of books there also. I picked up one of these last year.
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  18. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I am surprised they would allow you to hold a coin, outside its protective flip....
    Myself, I have never touched a coin with my bare fingers, due to acidic residue that can damage coins surface. I do use special coin gloves to remove coins from unsafe flips to saflips. I now appreciate the coins that are slabbed, offers protection from elements/ handling....but I still think the coins (hammered) are badly graded.
    John
     
  19. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I handle my coins quite often. Some acidic residue is nothing compared to their being buried for 2000 years. There may be reasons not to handle FDC gold coins but as for the rest I do not believe handling ancient coins does any lasting damage. Part of the enjoyment I get from this hobby is being able to hold the actual coins without plastic or gloves getting in the way.

    My way is not the only way. Everyone should should what they feel is best or appropriate.
     
  20. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    As long as you aren't currently eating a cheeseburger with your other hand, you can touch your coins. Just keep your hands relatively clean and and don't press hard to induce wear. I've never, ever used gloves to hold a coin, even in the back room at the British Museum holding some jaw-dropping $10 million+ coins.
     
  21. frankjg

    frankjg Well-Known Member

    Funny story

    I was marveling at the beautiful coins that Harlan J. Berk had in their cases and had a conversation with his son Aaron. He asks me what I'm into and I tell him I love Sicilian coins but really will buy anything that catches my eye this early in my ancients journey.

    He proceeds to take out an absolutely stunning, $15,000 Syracuse Double Gold Decadrachm and says I can look at it in hand. To which I responded, Thank you, but there is no way I'm touching that coin.

    https://www.hjbltd.com/#!/inventory/item-detail/ancient-coins/91762
     
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