pre 1501 AD coins with dates

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  1. tibor

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    A Briquet from Bruges. I didn't realize that I had an example for
    each coin listed in Bob's book for this year from the Southern
    Netherlands.
     
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  3. tibor

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    Thank you. It's one of my favorites, nice strike and some toning. Aurora Borealis on the CU Forum has some amazing toners.
    Legend has also auctioned off some beauties. I hope AB will publish a
    coffee table book before he sells them.
     
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  4. HoledandCreative

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  5. tibor

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    That is a nice coin. 2 cent piece, first year of issue, rare Small Motto version.
    Is the counterstamp, "C.D. PARTRIDGE" ? The upside down "2" is interesting
    as well. What are your thoughts about it?
     
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    A Briquet from Antwerp. A rough looking piece, I hope
    to upgrade it one day.
     
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    Another Briquet, this one from Bruges. I've said it
    before, I just like the Briquets.
     
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    A Stuiver from Deventer. Another candidate for upgrading.
     
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    An Achter from the Graz mint.
     
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    A Stuiver from Deventer.
     
  11. tibor

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    A Kreuzer from Wiener Neustadt. This coin, as any coin minted in
    Wiener Neustadt is special to me. When my parents were refugees
    in Austria in 1956, they were married in this town. They escaped
    from Hungary in December of 1956 during the Hungarian uprising
    against the Russians.
     
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    A Stuiver from Deventer.
     
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    A Kreuzer from Wiener Neustadt.
     
  14. tibor

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    From here on the dates and coins become less frequent.
    On the other hand a few of them are in exceptional
    condition and/or are relatively rare. Over the last few years
    I've found that even though some coins are listed as common
    or scarce, they rarely come up in auctions. While many of my
    coins need serious upgrading, the few opportunities I've
    had I did not think it was justified. Going from F-15 to VF-35
    was not justified to me. I have about 50 coins I need to send
    to Todd so he can image them for me. He is very patient
    with me and my lack of computer skills. I highly recommend him.
     
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  15. HoledandCreative

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    The 1474 III-68 looks like it is made of lead. I tried to find the C D Partridge several years ago, just a needle in the haystack. The upside down 2 is just as mysterious. We need to find a way to get a few words out of these coins.

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  16. panzerman

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    I find it really hard to find dated coins 1450-1499 in "mint state" quality. The ones from 1200-1500 ND are easier to find in high quality. The goldguldens from Hungary are easy to get in FDC/ opposite for ones from Deventer.....
     
  17. tibor

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    @HoledandCreative To my Knowledge the piece is made from silver.
    Possibly a low content alloy but for the most part silver.
    Now for the 3 cent silvers. Are these the same coin? The 1870 had
    <3000 made. The condition of the two pieces is remarkable. Any
    thoughts to its PMD use? Each of the pieces you have shared are very
    interesting and rare/very rare in their own right. Thank you and keep
    'em coming!!
     
  18. tibor

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    @panzerman Gold coins from that time period will be your best bet
    for Mint state/FDC pieces. Except for the VERY rare piece from 1445, Baar-Mors
    there are no other gold pieces till 1482 and 1483. After that again starting
    in 1487. Anything pre 1491 will be EXPENSIVE, $5K+. Many will be
    in the condition or nearly so that you like because they did not circulate,
    they were used as stores of value . If you have a chance to buy any of
    pre 1491 pieces do so, they are rare and the opportunity does not present
    it self very often.
     
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    @panzerman Regarding high quality silver pieces from the 1450-1500
    they are exceptionally rare. Unlike the gold pieces they were made to
    circulate and be used in everyday commerce. I only have a few high quality
    pieces, none even coming close to Unc./FDC. Here in the U.S. I would say
    that Bob has several pieces. His collection like yours is museum quality
    and the envy of the museums that are familiar with the collection.
     
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  20. tibor

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    A Horngroschen from the Colditz mint. The date "69" is at
    10 o'clock on the left image.
     
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    From the Leipzig mint.
     
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