Big delivery today of 11 lots, 24 coins! Want to help?

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  1. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Found this entry in A Catalogue of the Greek Coins in the British Museum: Galatia, Cappadocia and Syria:
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  3. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Here's a more detailed series of photos to review on the Philip I:
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Hmm. That flan is very... weird. The dotted border is blurred together into a nearly solid line. Very odd and suspicious :(.

    Edited to add that there are many "oversized" flans for Philip I in ACsearch. I really don't know what to think about this coin. The edges are worrisome.
     
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  5. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    And here's a more detailed series of the Valerian I obverse and year 2 eagle reverse:
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  6. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    And here are 3 other tets (3/4 of the worrisome 4-some photo posted last night) that have similar "off"-ness about them (their softness, their color and fabric, and their honed sides):
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  7. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Any with machined edges? I'll take a peek too..

    Edit: here are some that are larger flan with more-liney-less-dottie worn borders (at least in parts) and similar metal:
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  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    No.
     
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  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Are 1, 3 and 7 also Alexandrian? The fabric does not look right. The best outcome for the tets would be that they are ex-jewelry; worst is modern.
     
  10. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Thank you both! I'm calling shenanigans on these 5 machine-edged, funky-lookin' tets and reached out to the seller about them this morning and waiting to hear back.
     
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  11. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Yes, Alexandrian... #3 was part of the 3-pack photo of condemned coins above (the left one).

    Here's #1, 35mm, 23.2g:
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    Antoninus Pius, AE Drachm
    O: Laurate and bearded bust right of Antoninus Pius.
    R: EYΘHNIA, Euthenia reclining left on sphinx, holding grain ears, outstretched fold of garment containing fruit and lotus, LΓ in exergue, RY 3.

    Here's #7, 28mm x 29mm, 12.5g:
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    Hadrian, AE Hemidrachm
    O: Laurate, draped, and cuirassed bust right of Hadrian.
    R: Euthenia reclining left on sphinx, holding grain ears, L ΔWΔE K in exergue, RY 12.
     
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  12. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    I went ahead and explored and ID'd coin #22 (cuz it has such a pretty patina!):
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    Syria, Seleucis and Pieria. Laodicea ad Mare
    Trajan, AE25, Struck 116/117 AD

    Obverse: ΑΥΤΟΚΡ ΝΕΡ ΤΡΑΙΑΝΟС ΑΡΙСΤ ΚΑΙС СΕΒ ΓΕΡ ΔΑΚ ΠΑΡ, laureate head of Trajan, r., with drapery on l. shoulder.
    Reverse: ΙΟΥΛΙΕωΝ ΤωΝ ΚΑΙ ΛΑΟΔΙΚΕωΝ ΓΞΡ, turreted and veiled bust of Tyche, r., date M/KO year 163.
    References: RPC III 3797-8
    Size: 25mm, 9.8g
     
  13. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    I'd like to know more about #15... Is it Alexandrian with a canopus on reverse? Or is that a tureted head right? Is that an L/Є in the right field?

    #15, 18.5mm, 6.7g:
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  14. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    wOw!...what a nice group/lot!..ahaha..go RC & TiF ..^^
     
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  15. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Sorry about the tetradrachms... mine has a similar weird edge to yours above. If not modern they are at least suspect. A fake report was never made for mine because there was never a definitive conclusion but when you look at all of the examples... something's up.

    Not a total loss though... that Trajan Laodicea ad Mare coin and several others (including the Pius drachm) look great!
     
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  16. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Maybe it's a cult statue of Artemis; all the little dots are her breasts. If that is the case it is more squat than usual. I haven't found it with a quick ACsearch but it looks vaguely familiar so there is hope :D. It's not from Roman Egypt.
     
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  17. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Actually, its from Zeugma and the reverse shows a temple on mount with trees. Can be hard to nail it down specifically due to the wear, but I think its a very rare example of the link below (with just one specimen cited in BMC). Yours could be the second known:

    http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/4/5756/
     
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  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Mine is only AE18 and has a reverse die clash that obscures the area of the E on your coin. I never considered it having a gamma there but there is a trace of something left of the temple.
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    These coins illustrate a situation we often see with Provincial coins. Not all are common and not all come in fully detailed examples. ID is not always as easy as we might wish. My hat is off to Ken for recognizing the type. I missed it and I own the above similar but different coin. There are many variations in different sizes shown on acsearch.
    https://www.acsearch.info/search.ht...s=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=
     
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  19. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Thank you! The dots had reminded me of the grove but it seemed very round versus the more straight ones I've seen in my minimal experience. Yea, I was just looking on acsearch and came across this small, round reverse from Zeugma: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4034993

    Doug, your acsearch link above is much better :D
     
  20. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Here is #2, 21.5mm x 22.5mm, 7.3g
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    And #24, 23mm x 24mm,11.4g
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    Both very similar with an Aurelius-esque bust on obverse and tureted Serapis-like head on reverse. I also see some Latin reverse legend on #24: AVG CAES(AR?)...
     
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  21. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    And #9, 28.5mm, 16.1g:
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    Could this be a laureate bust of Hadrian? There's a Λ before the bust and on reverse a female seated left, with trophy over shoulder, resting on mound of rocks?
     
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