Big delivery today of 11 lots, 24 coins! Want to help?

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  1. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

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  3. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Nice work!!

    Ok, #4... 30mm, 19.4g
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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Philip I, 244–249 AD
    Arabia Petraea, Philipopolis.
    AΥTTOKKMIOΥΛIΦIΛIΠΠOCCEB, Laureate and draped bust of Philip I r.
    ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΠΟΛΙΤΩΝ ΚΟΛΟΝΙΑC, Roma seated l. on shield, holding spear and eagle supporting two figures; across fields: S C.
    Spijkerman 1978, 2.

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  5. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    Great HOARD @Justin Lee !! That may be more coins than I bought all of last year. I definitely want to add some provincials to the collection this year.
     
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  6. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Sweet, @Roman Collector !!

    Thanks, Doug! Hoard is a pretty appropriate term!
     
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  7. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    If you're up for a 3rd, @Roman Collector, do you want to do #12?

    19mm x 20mm, 5.0g
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  8. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    What I thought it was. I have one:

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    Claudia Neronis, AD 63, daughter of Nero and Poppaea
    Syria, Caesarea Panias
    Struck AD 65
    DIVA POPPAEA, distyle temple of Diva Poppaea, female figure within.
    DIVA CLAVD NER F, round hexastyle temple of Diva Claudia, female figure within.
    RPC I 4846; Hendin 578; RCV 2058; Vagi 746.
     
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  9. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Quick work! It's a fascinating little coin.

    If you're interested in another, how about the lil #17?

    17mm, 3.0g
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  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Syria, Seleucis and Pieria, Antioch
    Pseudo-autonomous issue under Nero (54-68).
    Ae Dichalkon.
    Obv: Laureate and draped bust of Apollo right.
    Rev: ANTIOXE ET ?, Lyre.
    RPC 4293.

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  11. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Nice haul! Those will be a lot of fun.

    That #6 looks familiar... can we see the other side of it?
     
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  12. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Great work!!! I had recognized the ANTIOXE legend.

    Do I see AIP at the top of the lyre? Does the ET and the AIP represent the date?
     
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  13. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Here's #6:
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    22mm, 9.7g
     
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  14. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Hmm, that's what I was afraid of... sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the Valerian Tetradrachm is likely a forgery. See my coin below. I posted about it last year on Forvm because I was having trouble attributing it.

    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=112762.msg686508#msg686508

    It turns out it was an unknown type until recently when a bunch of similar coins showed up that are thought to be fake. This was over a year ago so I don't remember all of the details. I left this coin needing to do more research.

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  15. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    ET for ETOYC, meaning "year" in Greek. AIP would be 111 of the Caesarean era = AD 61/62.
     
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  16. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Well, shucks! Now that you say it, it looks soft.

    And looking at a few other of the tets, they are soft too, have a different color/fabric, and have smooth sides... :mad::(:sorry:
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  17. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    I didn't look too deeply into it because I'd bought the coin many months before cheaply and had only just gotten around to attributing it...

    I wasn't totally convinced it was fake at the time because the flan shapes were different on coins even if the devices on the obverses and reverses were identical.

    In my searching before posting on Forvm... I couldn't find any year 2 "over the shoulder" Eagle tetradrachms for Valerian other than the suspected forgeries. Anyway, it's worth some more research... using previous posts as a starting point.

    Sorry I feel like I derailed a good party...

    Edit: After refreshing my memory a bit... it seems there was never a definitive condemnation in either thread but everyone felt there was a likelihood they were modern.
     
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  18. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I should do this sometime. Fun thread.
     
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  19. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Great thread @Justin Lee - right now I've got a bunch of unattributed coins I'm going through from my last hoard - you've got some real nice ones in there.
     
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  20. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Hmm, yeah... the edges do not look right for the era and all four have various other features of casts :(. Now I'm wondering about the very unusual (huge) flan for the Philip I. :(.
     
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  21. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    I'll take some more photos of it/them when I get home tonight. It does have a large flan crack that does go all the way through. But maybe because it is a large crack it was captured in the cast?
    Bummer... :sorry::sour:
     
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