2 euro coin sanchen error

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  1. Sonicattitude

    Sonicattitude New Member

    Hello what do u think about this 2 euro coin??
     

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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Interesting!
     
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  4. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Odd "map version" indeed. ;) That is the Sachsen (Saxony) coin from the German States series. The obverse, designed by Jordi Truxa, shows the Zwinger palace in Dresden. And on that side the palace design actually "flows" a little from the pill into the ring, see here. But the reverse apparently had a bit too much pill material ...

    Christian
     
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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Could be a counterfeit euro.. IMHO
     
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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I personally find that unlikely, though I will concede that it's possible.
     
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  7. Sonicattitude

    Sonicattitude New Member

    Yes when I saw it I was so surprised! I think this is definitely an error
     
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  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    @lordmarcovan
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_coins

    Quote "Counterfeiting
    Approximately 100,000 counterfeit euro coins are taken from circulation annually, and roughly the same number are seized before they can be released. Given a total circulation of 56 billion coins, counterfeit coins are relatively rare. About half the counterfeits feature the German national design, but counterfeits have been detected for every issuing country. The majority of counterfeit coins are €2 (60% in 2011), with most of the rest being €1, and a few 50c coins. The number of counterfeit €2 coins being found annually is decreasing, while numbers of counterfeit €1 and 50-cent coins are increasing." Closed quote
     
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  9. Sonicattitude

    Sonicattitude New Member

    I know that there are many fake coins but why you insist that my coin is one of them? OK you expressed your opinion but there is no need to post from wikipedia what counterfeit coins are.
     
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  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Exactly. We know that counterfeits exist and what they are, but tell us what makes you think this coin is counterfeit, @paddyman98?
     
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  11. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    looks like a cast copy... with the overflows an porous areas...
     
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  12. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I'm not institing that it is. I just gave my opinion. Why does it bother you? That was not my intention. The webpage was for @lordmarcovan

    Just its irregularities. That's all.
     
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  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    A bimetallic casting? Strange. I'm still dubious.

    But ... who knows? I don't.
     
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  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Found some interesting info on this page about bimetallic errors, but it doesn't leave me any closer to knowing what's going on with this coin.

    I did pick up one new vocabulary word, though: the center disc is called the "kernel".
     
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  15. Sonicattitude

    Sonicattitude New Member

    That is very interesting! Thank u!! The coin is a commemorative one and I think that if it was fake the people who created it will be more interested in faking the common German 2 euro cent and not a commemorative one
     
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  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I agree. But I don't think anyone would bother faking a 2-Eurocent of any kind. It surely wouldn't be worthwhile. But since this is a 2-Euro, it is possible. Unlikely, but possible (commemorative issue or not).
     
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  17. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

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  18. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I think this could happen if the kernel is slightly too large to fit inside the outer ring. The pressure of striking would displace the metal of the kernel. But would it do it like this? I don't know. There are coins on that webpage which show the kernel squashed out and overlapping the outer ring, but not quite like that.
     
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  19. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    what about the edge inscription? hows that look?
     
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  20. Sonicattitude

    Sonicattitude New Member

    Wait a minute please! I want to take a photo of the edge
     
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  21. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I'm no expert on circulated 2 euros, mostly I have BU examples, but that coin does NOT exhibit typical euro coin workmanship.
     
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