Mini Mysteries

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  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    It indeed had repercussions in the history of the New World.
     
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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  4. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Upon further reflection, I'd remembered there being variations that didn't have Athena
    But rather Asklepios. I think yours @Nyatii is Asleepyass. Borrowed this from Ac search. Check it out:

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    MYSIA, Pergamon. Circa 133-27 BC. Æ 20mm (7.21 g, 12h). Laureate head of Asklepios right / Serpent coiled around omphalos; c/m: owl standing right, head facing, within circular incuse. SNG France 1815 (with countermark). VF, green patina.
     
  5. Nyatii

    Nyatii I like running w/scissors. Makes me feel dangerous

    Thank you. Yes, I can see it.
     
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  6. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Mini Mystery Status Updates:

    Mysteries 1 and 2
    Coin 1 - Trajan As - Unsolved and probably unsolvable but some good comments!
    Coin 2 - Mauryan Drachm - Solved! Thank you so much @EWC3 !!!
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mini-mysteries.329562/

    Mystery 3
    Roman or Greek Provincial - Unsolved
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mini-mysteries.329562/#post-3279369

    Mystery 4
    Lordmarcovan's WW1 trench art mystery - Solved himself but I wanted to point out the post and link if you haven't read it yet.
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mini-mysteries.329562/#post-3279371

    Mystery 5
    "R" "B" and "H" is for Banker's Mark -
    Unsolvable without a time machine but cool
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mini-mysteries.329562/#post-3280203
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mini-mysteries.329562/#post-3280385
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mini-mysteries.329562/#post-3280650

    Mystery 6
    Who is "IIZ" - Unsolved - This one is really cool, with such care taken to place the marks... they surely mean something important
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mini-mysteries.329562/#post-3280682

    Mystery 7
    Is Kevin a talented amateur or "that guy" at the mint? -
    Unsolved-ish - My vote is for talented amateur.
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mini-mysteries.329562/#post-3280701

    Mystery 8
    The mystery of the snake riding owl -
    Solved! Good job @Ryro !
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mini-mysteries.329562/#post-3280953

    I realize that this thread may hurt some peoples brain's but it's fun. Many times we have those small questions that we're afraid to ask about because "it's not worth its own thread." This is a place for those questions while this thread lives. Thanks to the contributors and commenters!
     
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  7. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Thanks again @EWC3 ! This piece was just overwhelming to me as I didn't know what I was seeing. I really appreciate it. I'll dive into that pdf and educate myself. To others, below is the diagram of GH 575.
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  8. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Here's my mystery coin - with the most recent clue in @Deacon Ray 's whole collection thread, anything that looked close under the Nabatean heading is "not yet attributed". It only weighs 2.5g and about 15mm - lighter and smaller than anything in the right family on wildwinds.

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  9. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

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  10. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    That coin has beautiful historic character. My dear mother never said anything bad about anyone (very rarely at least—LOL). If she were describing someone who was not very attractive (wrinkled, narrow, or scarred up face) she would often say that the person has character. I use the word character in a good way when describing your coin. As an ancient coin collector—or relic hunter as some refer to me—character is a trait that I often strive for.
     
  11. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

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  12. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    A Flavian mystery.

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    Vespasian
    AR Denarius, 3.10g
    Lyon mint, 71 AD
    RIC 1120 (C). BMC 388. RSC 243.
    Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG TR P; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r.
    Rev: IVDAEA DEVICTA; Palm tree; to l., Judaea stg. l., hands bound in front

    Struck in 71 AD, more specimens of this type are plated than not. This coin is an example of the solid variant. The evidence that this type was well know as a fourrée in ancient times can be seen from the test marks behind the neck and below the chin of the portrait. I'm not entirely convinced the plated coins are the work of forgers. Other denarius reverse types from Lugdunum are not prone to being plated. Why are so many of these Judaea Capta types plated? I would like to know.
     
  13. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Another mini-mystery I've wondered about for a while:

    What's going on in the fields underneath/behind the curule chair on my L.F. Brocchus denarius? Could it be overstruck on an earlier coin?

    And on the other side, what's that little "booger" in Ceres' nose? Die chip?

    Dunno.

    (Of course, "dunno" is my default position on all too many ancient coin topics.)

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  15. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    My other mini-myst coin I'll add was brought up a month or so ago, but still unsolved... It's confronted busts roman provincial probably Moesia or Judaean, but can't make out who the busts are, and not what the reverse is.

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    Some simple questions to help narrow down what it is not...
    • Is one of them Serapis? (isn't he shown on confronted busts if the emperor is not yet married? I don't think it's him, not a turreted headdress, right?)
    • Is either a profile of a female? (I'm not seeing one, are you?)
    • Are they both male profiles, and therefore are father/son or emperor/caesar? (I'm thinking maybe yes?)
    • Any idea on reverse?

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/he...es-in-id-ing-a-mixed-lot.327165/#post-3237766

    Now to do some acsearch-ing...
    "Hey, Google, who are the confronted busts on my worn coin?"
    "I don't understand."​
    "That's what I thought."
     
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  16. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Could it be overstruck from a bad strike of the same coin, but the obverse? I see the shape of the seed (thing in the right obv field?) behind the chair...
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    Kevin "strikes" again? (no, literally:cool:)
     
  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Hmm. Like a die clash, maybe? Do die clashes happen with ancients? Like if the guy with the hammer forgot to put a flan between the dies before smacking them together?
     
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  18. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    They certainly do, but I'd guess this isnt a clash based on how nice the die is on the chair, not mangled. So I'd bet it is the remnants of a previous strike, like the top die was really off center so they decided to try again with the flan. Quick overstrike.
     
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  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Thanks.
     
  20. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    What a great thread!!
    I have a few of these but one at a time...

    Any help with this little Greek that came in a lot??
    16.3 mm... 2.07g

    Can we call this coin GreekLot1?

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  21. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Can we call this one: GreetLot2:

    Greek3_OBV_MERGE.jpg
    4.02 grams... 17.89mm

    Any help is appreciated!
     
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