Authentic?

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  1. Romgol

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  3. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Image uploaded to thead for ease of use.

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  4. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Here is a match... from the Forvm AC Fake reports

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  5. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Well that didn't take long... :smuggrin:
     
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  6. Romgol

    Romgol New Member

    Thanks to everyone so far. The die-pairing is also used on genuine pieces for what that is worth (lot 1190 in CNG 93 for example). The piece has been offered for sale by the Barakat Gallery (which does ostensibly provide a certificate of authenticity, though they have a mixed reputation).
     
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  8. Lolli

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    I do not understand the argument
    "Have you seen their offerings of forgers' dies?"

    If he would have offered a die fitting to the Septimius Aureus it would have been a good argument but his dies have noting to do with the coins he is selling !!!

    We should judge the coin only this is most reliable !


    His other coins look authentic!
    His Parthian drachm
    http://store.barakatgallery.com/product/parthian-silver-drachm-of-king-orodes-i/

    And his Sassid drachm look completely authentic.
    http://store.barakatgallery.com/product/silver-drachm-of-sassanid-king-khosrow-ii/

    And that they are a die match to a coin suspected to be fake is meaningless if you do not understand why the coin in reports is fake.

    They seem to be transfer die fakes from an authentic mother.
    So die matches can be authentic or fake.

    Here is another very suspicious on with the same problem as both coins here

    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1161391

    Here is an authentic example from the same dies

    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4833943

    You can see on the authentic example that there was a die break on the reverse over geta´s head left to the F of Felicitas and one from the first E of Felicitas to the head of Doma.

    On the suptected coins the fields are lifeless and fine details are missing and to soft. look for example at the die break left to felicitas there is a pearl on the die break which should not be and the the last part of the die break is missing.
    there is a hole in the hair of Caracalla and a hole in bust of Caracalla .

    This holes are circular and possibly casting defects or from air bubbles.
    That they are visible on both suspected coins mean that they must be in the transfer dies.

    I do not think that the prearl on the the break and the holes can be different explained that the coins are fake.
     

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