Combination of Roller, Die Polish, and Hairlines? 1972-D Ike Dollar

I would like your opinions/expertise regarding the appearance of this 1972-D Eisenhower Dollar. Based on the photos (not mine) it appears that this coin has roller lines, die polish lines and hairlines (harsh cleaning?). I’ve seen some slabbed mint state ‘72-D Ikes that have these parallel roller lines, but they looked nowhere near as bold and prominent. Thoughts?

 

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This is one I'd have to see in hand to determine for sure. That doesn't look harshly cleaned to me, but as you said, die polish and roller marks. Does the coin cartwheel? Do you see any evidence of flow lines?

 

I don’t have this coin in hand. It’s one I’ve got my eye on, though. It’s a strange one for sure.

 

If the asking price ain't too high, it might be an excellent addition to the collection, old friend.

 

Draw roller marks and a harsh leaning.

 

I would ask for images outside of the 2x2. Some of this could be the mylar window( but I highly doubt all)

 

His older brother.

 

Wow. There is a whole lot going on there.

I've seen the Ike's with roller lines, as Larry shows. A similar effect can often be seen on Morgans. These roller lines obviously hurt the eye appeal, and will often hurt the grade (a well struck coin should have obliterated the lines).

Roller lines usually aren't as prominent as the coin you show, however. They are usually kinda subtle on the Ikes. I'm going to assume that the diagonal parallel lines are the roller lines.

That leaves at least two sets of lines left. One of these is the set of semi-circular concave up lines that cover the face of the coin. I'm assuming these are the lines that you are calling die polish. The problem with that is.... the die polish lines are uniform across the face of the coin. There is little or no interruption across the devices. I would expect that die polish lines primarily appear in the fields. If they appear on the devices as well, that leads me to believe that they are not die polish, they are actually hairlines from cleaning.

The third set of lines are most evident in your first picture, at cross angles to the roller lines. These appear to be clearly cleaning lines.

I'd say that this coin has been very harshly cleaned, more than once. It has been polished to death. The colors you see are weird effects from its reactions with the environment after it's been subjected to a bunch of weird chemicals.

Avoid this coin at all costs. Don't even try to buy it. It is worth a dollar, if you can find a store that will take it.

 

The roller marks may very well be struck out, but if the roller was not clean, it could deposit impurities onto the surface that, while struck out of the design, could impede the toning, leaving the streaks you see on the toned coins.

That said, I really don't care for the coin, and would let it go.

 

Thanks, guys. I appreciate the feedback. I really want this coin in-hand to study, so I may still purchase it to go into the enigmatic pile. It's a good piece for educational purposes since there are dual issues present. I'll post new images if I decide to get it.

The 1978-D in my registry set has roller lines as well, and I really like the effect. It looks like the "I" in LIBERTY is blasting off from Ike's forehead.

 

So I did purchase the coin, and it arrived yesterday. Now that I have the coin in hand I can see no evidence of hairlines from cleaning. The toning is obviously artificial, yet it exhibits decent cartwheel luster. Those roller lines (striations) are incredibly bold. They're even present on the reverse, although they're much less pronounced. It looks so..... exotic. The seller's photos show circular hairlines in addition to the parallel striations, so either these were scratches on the flip (I couldn't see them on the flip either), or it was some sort of weird effect produced by the lighting setup that was used. I didn't think to photograph it the same way while it was still in the flip, so I can't try to replicate it now. Anyway, here are my photos:

 

Nice coin. I like it.

 

Heck dang. Agree with Larry........

 

I don't see how that many lines, which appear so prominently in the original pictures, just "disappeared." There has to be an explanation.

 

Bad photography?

 

Thanks, guys. I'm glad I bought it. Here's a different shot I took to try to capture the luster- a bit difficult with this coin.

 

I'm with you. I'm rather puzzled by it. I viewed the flip at different angles, and I just couldn't see anything resembling what was in the photos. The only thing I can think of is what @Dave Waterstraat alluded to- that there were extremely fine lines on the flip, and they were super enhanced in the seller's photos as artifact. I've seen this in my own photos of slabbed coins, where really fine lines were made to look like nasty gashes, all due to the angle of light hitting the coin just right to produce the effect (artifact). Here are the other two AT Ikes included in the lot.