Christmas gift - new Ducat

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by AussieCollector, Dec 25, 2018.

  1. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    Hi all

    I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas.

    I was given a Dutch 1974 Ducat for Christmas. I thought it was fascinating that this coin has not changed substantively from the 1648 Ducat I also have.

    Broadly speaking, the design remains unchanged - over 350 years later.

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    1648 Ducat
    Weight: 3.49g
    Mint: Gelderland
    Obv: Armored knight standing right holding sword on shoulder and clutching 3 arrows.
    Legend - CONCORDIA.RES PAR.CRES.GE expands to CONCORDIA RES PARvae CREScunt GElderland, which translates as Power through unity
    Rev: MO:ORD PROVIN FOEDER BELG.AD LEG.IMP (expands to MOneta ORDinum PROVINciarum FOEDERatorum BELGicarum AD LEGem IMPerii, which translates as "Coin of government of the provincial federation of Belgium Conforming with the law of the Imperial)

    1974 Ducat
    Weight: 3.49g
    Obv: Armored knight standing right holding sword on shoulder and clutching arrows
    Legend - Concordia res parvae crescunt, which translates as Power through unity
    Rev: MO. AUR. REG. BELGII AD LEGEM IMPERII (expands to MOneta AURea REGni BELGII Ad LEGEM IMPERII, which translates as "Gold coin of the Kingdom of the Netherlands by law of the Empire")

    AC
     
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  3. kaparthy

    kaparthy Well-Known Member

    Gold Ducats of the Netherlands, Vol. 1 by Dariusz F. Jasek, Knight Press, 2015. 345 pages, A4 (11.7 x 8.3 inches) €135 from www.goldducats.com.

    I saw Gold Ducats of the Netherlands by Dariusz F. Jasek mentioned on the CoinTalk.com discussion board. From the sample material provided in the links, the book looked like a quality presentation. So, I bought the book in order to review it. I do not collect the series.

    In the first place, when opened, the book lays flat. The binding is truly perfect –bound to the highest standards. The illustrations include high quality photographs of every coin (where possible), as well as specially commissioned line art to complement the narrative.

    Complete review here:
    https://www.coinbooks.org/club_nbs_esylum_v19n11.html#article4
     
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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You can stretch that date range out a bit longer :)

    1586 ducat obv.jpg

    1586 ducat rev.jpg


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    Congrats on your new acquisition !
     
  5. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    Heh, indeed!

    I guess it's 350 years as far as my collection is concerned :D
     
  6. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    I broke down and got one:

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    Netherlands Ducat 1986, 400th Anniversary of the Ducat

    :)
     
  7. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    Nice! I should do likewise
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Nahhhh - you, especially YOU, should do what I set out to do years ago - collect a complete date set of them ;)
     
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  9. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    Heh, you're right! I should!

    It will only cost me $60,000 USD at bullion price. I should get going on, it's going to take a while
     
  10. Deposito

    Deposito New Member

    Hi GDMP... Doug! Did you just sell that 1586 at Heritage tonight? I just recognized the pic when trying to research it. Thank you!

     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Nahhh, it wasn't me, I sold my entire collection in 2006 and have not collected coins since then. But it's not unusual for coins that used to be in my collection to come on the market from time to time. Usually at several to many multiples of what I paid for them :)
     
  12. Deposito

    Deposito New Member

    I still have your old 1586. Any idea where you got it from or what you paid? I wonder if I have any other coins from your old collection
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    5 year old thread.........Doug don't remember what he had for dinner last nite. (devil)
     
  14. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    I still have my 1986 ducat.

    :)
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I don't know for sure that the one you have IS from my collection. It very well might be, but it might not be as well. As for where I got it, I do not recall with any degree of certainty. It could have been an auction, a coin show, even a private sale, as back in those days I bought them wherever I could find them. Cost ? Could have been as little as a $150, (given the date), might have been as much as $300. But I can say with a fair degree of certainty it was not more than that. More than a few of the ducats in my old collection I picked up for melt at the time - which was roughly $65.

    You easily could as it was extensive. Many other members of the forum own one, some own several.
     
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  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Hmm - the battle continues :)

    Whatsamatter Ken - you don't like me catchin up ? :D
     
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  17. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    I used to have a modern proof ducat. Could kick myself for selling it!
     
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