GTG: 1983-P Washington Quarter

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  1. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

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  3. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    So, Mike, what did this one grade? Don't keep us in suspense!
     
  4. jake1932

    jake1932 Active Member

    I'll go 65
    Just an observation I have (in silver quarters particularly - because that's what i collect mainly) is seems that grading forgiveness is granted to coins with incompletely struck features. "Sort of, its not the planchets fault that the die was worn". So, the light strike on Liberty and United States of America is not as heavily weighted as the fields of the coin. If not for the chatter around the motto, date, and neck i would vote 66.
     
  5. WashQuartJesse

    WashQuartJesse Member Supporter

    They gave it a 66, didn't they?
     
  6. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

  7. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

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    Honestly, I was hoping for 66. As @Evan8 said, the 83-P is hard to find with this kind of strike.

    I have another that’s just the same as this one and as I figured, it wasn’t worth the money to grade at the end of the day.

    Merry Christmas and thanks for playing. My photos never gave you a chance...
     
  8. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

  9. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Two entirely different coins
     
  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You can't compare an 83 to a 65.
     
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  11. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    64 if lucky with the typical mushy strike. They look like they're struck thru grease with worn dies.
     
  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The evidence of a weak strike on the high points can be found on coins even in MS67 range. I think this should have at least gotten a 66. Maybe what held it back was the MD on the reverse.
     
  13. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    Frankly I didn't comment after the first picture because it appeared it could be AU. An awful lot of '83-P's are AU's that were pulled out of circulation between 1983 and 1985. Numismatic News ran a series of articles about how scarce these were and people started pulling them out of change.

    This one is pretty clean for the date but the grade is probably as much for the great luster as the lack of marking. Most of what looks like scratches is just planchet defects that weren't struck out. This is common on high spots and around the periphery.

    The coin was struck by fairly new dies but this isn't extremely uncommon for the date. The strike is better than typical.

    It certainly looks right in a 65 holder to me.

    It might be noted that the coin is a type "d" reverse. This isn't a recognized variety and might be only a hubbing variety but it is identified by the greater distance between the right side of the "N" in "UNUM" and the eagle's head. These don't appear in souvenir sets and the vast majority come from BU rolls. Even though they were very common in production, because of the way most survived this type "d" is quite a bit scarcer than the type "c" in BU.

    It might be a big winner in the longer term.
     
  14. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    Missed this one. Looking at the pics I'd have said MS-64.

    Edit: didn't see the second set of pics. From those, it looks like a nice MS-65.
     
  15. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    great news! and cool to know! Thanks king... I was hoping that you'd offer your opinion on this coin. I admit the pics were trash. I just can't get the right lighting, but that's something to work on.

    This coin came from a Mint Souvenir Set. I have another one with a slightly nicer Quarter in it, but that one remains in my set of Mint Sets.
     
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  16. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    Meow just remembered that Meow has a graded 1983p quarter in a PCGS. Meow will make a new thread for it. So we may compare them, and continue the discussion on this subject.
     
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  17. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    It has been put up. Check out if you please: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/1983p-quarter-in-pcgs.329417/
     
  18. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    I think I remember you saying that, now.

    I've seen a great number of these souvenir sets and have never seen a type "d" in a single one of them.

    I guess my sample size was too small.
     
  19. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Yeah, this coin has been a long time in the process.

    I had an opportunity to have a coin graded for free, this is the coin that I chose. It was worth every cent I paid.

    The 65 grade makes it a $35-$50 coin. That barely covers the grading costs.
     
  20. SlipperySocks

    SlipperySocks Well-Known Member

    So are you saying had it earned a 66 it would have been worth grading?
     
  21. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Yes. The value of an MS-66 is about $50-$100 higher
     
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