A Question Posed to All of You Dealers...

Seems like that would absolutely cement the "knowingly selling stolen goods" case.

Victim: "I filed this police report about these stolen items. Look, it lists the cert numbers, and they match the slabs you have here."

Dealer: "OK, looks like stolen property. Here's what it'll cost you."

 

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I respectfully disagree. Going to combating does not, in my mind, warrant any special treatment. Going to combat is determined by the unit someone is in, and combat experiences vary significantly. If I cut someone off by accident, the amount of apology I offer should be no different to a combat veteran vs a homeless man. The idea that combat veterans are sacred and deserve preferential treatment is, in my mind, a bad precedent for society.

 

I 100% agree about this being a (an over) correction due to Vietnam. There are however, a lot of other people who deserve our praise, like teachers, nurses and the people who pick up our trash. I wish we paid these people the respect they deserve. Just my two cents.

 

Viet Nam was the last "conflict" where the draft came into play. Being drafted to fight for something one might not agree with or understand is much different than joining today's "professional" military. And as many of us veterans know, once you joined it was a roll of the dice as to what your job would be and where you would go.

 

@Seattlite86
You have a very Humble approach although respectable.
I think that folks who have served have a lot of Pride built into their time doing so. And to feel honored shouldn't be a hardship.
It's a blessing.
Denver just broke ground or is in the process of breaking ground on a fully funded apartment complex for the homeless Veterans living on the streets. Last winter any given night, there were over 500 of them with out shelter.
These folks in my opinion deserve our Thanks and Praise.

 

I think that many people are willing to "give preferential treatment" to vets and most other people who have served in the military as way of saying "thanks for doing what I didn't/don't want to do, or wouldn't/didn't want my family members to do." I agree it is setting a bad precedent.

I think it would help if MORE people served, AND more people (even those who haven't served) should be critical of what the military does and how it trains and equips itself.

 

I think those who were drafted and forced to do something they otherwise would not have deserve not only our gratitude, but an apology.

It’s always felt weird to me to hear “thank you for your service”. Of course, I’ve never done well at taking compliments. I feel like we have a mentality in the US where we idolize soldiers and questioning them or their actions is taboo (think Dixie chicks). I personally think this is a bad thing. When’s the last time someone offered a round of applause for a teacher or nurse?

This. My sentiments exactly.

 

To which I would reply:

“Show me the law that requires such a course of action.”

 

I’ve never heard that rule. I’ve always heard that it is was a risk of the trade and one must be wary to protect oneself.

 

* (because he just made it up)

I might have laughed in his face. But I probably would've managed to keep my composure while I explained to him that I was sorry he lost money he'd given to thieves, but really, that was a matter for him to resolve with the thieves.

Or maybe I would've just pointed him to the written rule, within the society containing his "numismatic community", that says "don't purchase stolen goods".

 

I once sat in a tavern on a day off and watched a patron pay for a few beers with silver dollars...The bartender was probably the only person in the tavern that knew I was a Police Officer. He looked at me and handed me two silver dollars, I examined them and saw that they were close to almost mint....I approached the patron and asked him how it was that he had came by the coins...He told me that he had gotten them from a guy in the hotel and took me to the guys room. I knocked on the door and identified myself, I inquired as to how he had came by the coins, he told me he had bought them from ( Persons name )....I knew the guy, he was a City Cop.
The guy in the hotel handed over several books filled with coins and I gave him a written receipt for them and took them into HQ.
The Department had received a report from the City Police Records Bureau that the Coins had been stolen some time in the past from inside the Records Bureau, and I was aware of this. The Detective Bureau had determined that a janitor had stolen the coins and he was fired. The Police Department refused to accept that the City Police Officer had stolen the recovered coins and dropped the issue...I took the original owner of the coin set to an Attorney, who in turn took statements from the individual in the hotel who had purchased the coins from the Police Officer and the individual who had been spending the coins in the tavern....The original owner wanted collectors value of the coins and the coins that were missing from his collection...The Attorney filed a lawsuit on behalf of the Original owner and for the individual who had bought the coins from the Officer.....The City's insurance company paid off and dropped the City....The City Police Officer was forced to retire....The janitor was reinstated and paid a undisclosed amount by the City, because the Attorney reached out to him and included him in the lawsuit.
The City Cop had been working out of the Records Bureau and noticed that the ledger used as a chain of custody had not been signed when the coin sets had been returned from the DA's Office to the Records Bureau after they had been recovered from a previous burglary. The City Cop was smart enough to know that when the coins were returned and no-one signed for them that it would look like they had not been returned from the DA's Office and were still in the custody of the District Attorney... Problem was that one of the Officers in the Records Bureau remembered taking custody of the valuable coins because he and the Assistant DA had talked about how nice the set was because it was complete.
I was not too popular with the Command in the Department for a few years...because I had assisted three people recover their loss and one his job...A few years later the Chief and his Deputy Chief were forced out because they operated in the gray area...The Cop who stole the set was never charge and allowed to get his retirement..
Not one of my best investigations...but I could look at myself in the mirror and feel better than I would have if I had done nothing.
Bud helped

 

Great work Bud! Thanks for helping take a bite out of crime.

 

More like a nibble 86....but that is the way things are sometimes done in the world of Law Enforcement...some get away..

 

I'm sorry for your loss. The ring must have meant a lot to you that even a replacement ring wouldn't make up for.

 

Thanks, but when I contacted my alma mater, I discovered that the ring could be replaced, with one exactly the same, but at a cost nearly twelve times higher than I had paid for it originally. Two to three times more would not have been so bad, but for their asking price I just had to face reality.

 

I don’t buy class rings. They are a blatant cash grab. Plus I would never wear it, so it would be a useless expenditure

 

I don't know what years are involved, but I know the price of gold is three or four times higher (in nominal dollars) than when I bought my last class ring, and 30 times higher than it was in the 1960s.

I'm guessing there's a certain amount of extra effort in setting up a one-off run for an older year, and that would be reflected in the replacement price, too.