1000 wheat pennys searched 4 possibles

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Derwood, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. Derwood

    Derwood New Member

    After searching 1,000 wheat pennies with a microscope I found three possible errors.

    1952 mint mark error.
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    1939 ddo
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    1940 s ddo
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  3. Derwood

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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    1952 - Die Chip in Mint Mark

    The rest.. Die Deterioration Doubling or Machine Doubling.. Not Doubled Die

    IMHO
     
  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The first looks damaged, nothing there. To be sure check the eye lid.
    The second and third are Mechanical doubling.
    Always check the MM and see if it has the same doubling as the date or other devices. If it does then it is MD. MM were hand punched into the dies and will not have doubling.
     
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  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The 52S is die deterioration. Same as the 52D the S mintmark was susceptible to die chips within the curves.
     
  7. Collecting Nut

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  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Another die chip and worn dies.
     
  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Also

    Penny - Singular
    Pennies - Plural.. Not pennys

    Peace :angelic:
     
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  10. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Yes, the latter two both indeed display strike doubling. I see no real evidence of die deterioration doubling on either.

    As for the date and mintmark both showing doubling being a sign of strike doubling (MD), it is generally an excellent indicator, but it is worth mentioning that there are the fairly uncommon exceptions. A genuine doubled die can also display strike doubling, as can an RPM, meaning it is possible for both the date and mintmark to be "doubled" on pre-1990 cents and still be an actual variety. If we use the 40-S as an example: the "doubling" on both the date and mintmark is in the same direction and is an even stronger indicator, but it's always best to be able to identify the different forms of doubling than relying solely on such generalities.
     
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  11. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    I agree with the others. But you did find 1 error, the filled mm. Unfortunately, it doesn't add any value to the coin. Keep looking and learning
     
  12. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

  13. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Agreed.
     
  14. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

  15. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Merry Christmas
     
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  16. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The S mintmark clearly shows small die chips that are die deterioration. Also mistaken for an RPM. And the D missing the center post is another form of DD. Notice that I didn't say DDD.

    I do agree a doubled die can exhibit MD. I have seen on this forum an example or two of rare Doubled Dies that were thought to be authentic/real. Not sure that any of them were ever authenticated?
     
  17. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    And notice I didn't even address the first coin. Reading comprehension is a virtue.

    As for die deterioration doubling, I didn't say nor remotely suggest you did say it. Others clearly had mentioned it, but next time I'll be sure to directly quote them instead of assuming the obvious sufficient to stand on its own.
     
  18. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I usually have a strict policy of not posting before a full cup of coffee.
    Some of what you wrote, went right over my head. That doesn't happen to often. I am blaming the caffeine. I see some areas on the coins that could be confused with some DDD. But I think that it is just the result of circulation wear and some damage.
     
  19. Derwood

    Derwood New Member

  20. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    Broken post on the D mint mark, and die chip on the S MM. No doubled dies - all are machine doubling.
     
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