1965 NGC quarter

Meow recently commented on a post of a graded 1983p quarter. So it reminded Meow of a NGC graded 1965 quarter that Meow had, that Meow did not quite agree with its grade. Would the members here chime in on the grade they think this quarter should grade at please. Meow will mention that this quarters is a business strike, and not a SMS.

 

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This one appears (to me) to be a higher grade than the 1983.
I'm not seeing major hits; there do appear to be die polish lines as well as some scratches on the holder.

My guess is MS 66.

 

This is a very nice one I think, perhaps a 65 or ever maybe a 66.

 

What did you think about the reveal in the post about the 1983p quarter? It was revealed to be a MS65.

 

I agree with dddd on the 66. Looks quite a bit cleaner than the 1983. It may have a few light lines behind Washingtons head in the field (East of the polish lines), perhaps that would keep it at a 65 in someones eyes at the grading service but not mine. She's a beauty.

 

One thing that Meow does not get is how it seems people think, that this quarter might be 66; Even though, it is apparently much less flawed than that 83p that was revealed to be a MS65. Are they that much difference in look, even for one level of grade?

 

I think it was a bit generous, but I have seen that happen. Perhaps in hand the marks seemed not so glaring to the grader. I think from what I saw, the luster was really great. I'm happy for Mike because that is a tough one to find.

I'm getting better at grading but I still think I tend to be a bit conservative.

 

The '65 comes pretty nice in the SMS.

They are not forgiving of problems with SMS coins (other than some chicken scratching).

Almost any really nice and fully lustrous '82 or '83 issue gets at least MS-63.

 

Oh, Meow should of mentioned that this quarter is not a SMS. It does not say SMS on the label anywhere. It is a business strike 1965 quarter.

 

To some degree, grading is subjective, but this one here seems very clean (mark free) so ... and very nicely struck. There should be enough of a difference between 65 And 66 if only on how few marks it has.

 

Meow did not want to get any SMS coins, as they are too easy to get in high grades.

 

Meow, could you show us a couple of head on shots now that we have an idea of its luster?

 

Meow, could you show us a couple of head on shots now that we have an idea of its luster?[/QUOTE]
Meow finds it hard to photograph coins in a holder due to reflections the plastic gives off. But Meow tried to take more pics on the obverse for you.

 

Meow did great with the photos, JAM and I will check something....

 

My guess is that this was graded 65.

 

From PCGS:

"MS67: Above average strike. Full mint luster and attractive eye appeal. A few tiny marks may be present and even one single hidden mark near or at an important design area of the coin may exist. No more than one significant mark.

MS66: Above average strike. Full mint luster is required for the MS66 level. A mint state 66 graded coin should have above average eye appeal and be considered attractive for the issue. A few, small scattered marks may be present, but not a single, large obvious mark that detracts from the overall nice appeal of the coin.

MS65: The strike should be at least average for the issue and preferably sharp for the issue. The luster should be above average although full mint luster is not required like MS66 and MS67 grades are. Bagmarks can be present, but should not detract greatly from the coin's overall beauty. Generally, MS65's are above average for the issue with attractive luster and are appealing coins overall.

MS64: The strike is average and preferabally slightly better than average. Luster should be at least average for the issue. Full mint luster is not required. Average strike for the issue. Bagmarks are present, sometimes heavier than others."

---- based on your photos, I am seeing what I think is full luster and an above average strike. It has great eye appeal to me and I am not really seeing marks, especially in the two main areas where it counts more than others: the face and the fields in front and behind the device (Washington). The fields in this area look very free of marks. This is what I would say is important, especially on a known good strike year, for a 66. And it should be discernable enough difference from something keeping it at a 65.

 

Wow good post. Thanks for sharing the info and your opinion. Meow will show the grade tomorrow, and hopefully get more feed back from members.

 

Merry Christmas Meow... Here's a big kitty from earlier this year!

 

I think the coin is a 66 and meow is a bit strange.