2nd opinion on 1798 Dollar

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by larssten, Dec 17, 2018.

  1. halfcent1793

    halfcent1793 Well-Known Member

    I agree. There are a couple of light planchet laminations, which also suggest originality. The scratches look light, old and toned-over. Pretty coin.
     
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  3. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    If you are interested in the coin, the seller has a solid return policy on this coin that is clearly written down, I think it's not a bad buy depending on the price.

    Looks legitimate to me, and a very nice coin.

    Remember, the SP-66 1794 flowing hair dollar was raw at some point in time... ;)
     
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  4. Brina

    Brina Well-Known Member

    small die break at 11:00?
     
  5. Coinsailor

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  6. Coinsailor

    Coinsailor Member

    Wow very nice coin I personally don’t care if it’s been dipped and retained it’s a nice piece but this coin I would submit to a grading service just to safe
     
  7. Coinsailor

    Coinsailor Member

    I could never afford a coin like this
     
  8. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Agree with others...My first thought was is it raw? and why isn't it graded? Be careful!
     
  9. Coinsailor

    Coinsailor Member

    I too have seen some very good copies I would be careful if m looking for a museum copy of a liberty no motto 10 and a type one twenty for my gold type pages I want to fill up a holes till I can raise the money for genuine pieces if anyone knows where I can get good museum copies of these coins let me know thanks
     
  10. Daniel Jones

    Daniel Jones Well-Known Member

    Gosh, I hope that is not true. How would you/we know if some fakes deceive the professionals?
     
  11. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Lots of continuous study and alertness.

    Here is a counterfeit 1798 large cent that got by all of the major TPGs. It was not found out until an astute EAC member saw that the Y was of the incorrect shape and alerted the community.

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  12. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    "Here is a counterfeit 1798 large cent that got by all of the major TPGs. It was not found out until an astute EAC member saw that the Y was of the incorrect shape and alerted the community".

    That one example lead to this family portrait and started more digging into many more deceptive denominations and "varieties"...
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    The image I use in my profile is of one of these as well!
     
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  13. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

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    I agree with others here- the posted bust dollar looks original, and this variety is not on our radar screen of the latest deceptive counterfeits.
     
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  14. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Nothing about the coin suggests "fake" to me. But, it's very hard to judge surfaces and luster from photos, and I would not purchase a coin like this outside of a legit TPG slab. Too many of them have been messed with.
     
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  15. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Finger prints
     
  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Good eye sis. Do you see finger prints at 12
     
  17. larssten

    larssten Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I guess that would have been my main concern too - and if it would have gotten a straight grade or not from a TPG service...
     
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  18. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Exactly. These days, if one sees a higher grade piece of early bust coinage that is raw, you have to ask yourself, "Why?"
     
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  19. larssten

    larssten Well-Known Member

    FYI - this coin was sold yesterday for 9k Euro - about $10k yesterday
     
  20. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

  21. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    I'm surprised that no one mentioned the rim ding on this coin. Wouldn't that warrant a Details grade?
     
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