Plastic Ain’t Forever..... Is It?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Randy Abercrombie, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. IMHO... I would assume for the TPG'S, If you keep them cool and dry, They should last for eternity. I think PCGS & NGC are in the same boat.
     
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  3. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    The very north can have 24 hours of sun lol :D
     
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  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    ...if the window is a skylight!
     
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  5. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    When I was in Fairbanks, Alaska, we got about 21-22 hours direct sunlight a day.
    I was about 100 miles south of the Arctic Circle so no 24 hours direct sunlight.
    BUT
    When I was at the US South Pole Station it was 24 hours direct sunlight.
    I was there only in their summer (1 Nov to mid-Feb).
    Sun was up when I got there and stayed up the whole time.
    But we were about 20 feet down so you had to go outside to see the sun.
     
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  6. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    There's a bunch of grade misses on eBay that are slabbed that will run about 5-6 bucks each if you wanted a cheap coin to crack out for the experiment
     
  7. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    "Just one word...Plastics..."
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  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Then a "clear-coat" is offered to toughen and re-seal the plastic.
     
  9. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Interestingly window glass filters out most (if not all) UV.
     
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  10. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Or, someone who cracks them out as a matter of course could just send him one...
     
  11. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    It's basically the same cost for a bubble mailer with slab fragments
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not all of them do, only the ones made with the special coating on them do.
     
  13. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Will the ones with the anti-reflective coating have an effect though? I'm unsure if it's coated on both sides, but maybe if it's on the underside, then maybe the plastic is affected.
     
  14. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    To get into "you're both partly right" territory:

    UV comes in different "colors" just like visible light. After you go past blue and violet, you get to UV-A, just a bit more energetic than visible light. Keep going, and you get to UV-B, more energetic and damaging, then UV-C, very dangerous indeed. Beyond that is EUV ("extreme UV"), then X-rays.

    UV-C and everything above it gets absorbed strongly by air, so we don't get much of it from the Sun at ground level.

    UV-B gets through the air, but window blocks it. You need something like a quartz window to let it through. Borosilicate glass (old-school Pyrex, before that brand got sold out) lets through some.

    UV-A gets through normal glass to varying degrees.

    Even blue or violet visible light can cause yellowing damage, so a paper left on the indoor side of a windowsill will turn yellow with time, even if UV doesn't get through.
     
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  15. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Who needs plastic anyway. ;)

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  16. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Thanks, I was thinking mainly of UV-B. Why I had to use quartz cuvettes when running vis/uv spectra.
     
  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yup. Quartz passes all the way up into UV-C, and way into the IR (but not quite into the thermal IR ranges). Just a shame it's so hard to work.
     
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  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    My only point was that not all windows block UV because they don't all have the special coatings. Many windows are manufactured without any special coatings at all.
     
  19. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    But you don't need special coating to block UV-B
     
  20. Scuba4fun777

    Scuba4fun777 Well-Known Member

    Forgot that part. Most kits do also include the clear coat finish, however some do not.
     
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