1916-D mercury dime, another scam

You might very well be correct. But if he cared and asked, I could provide him with plenty of proof.

 

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What he said : "THIS COULD BE AN S BUT IT HAS THE RIGHT POSITION FOR A "D""

What he should have said : "THIS COULD BE AN S BUT IT HAS THE RIGHT POSITION FOR A "D" - WHICH IS THE SAME PLACE THEY PUT AN "S", OR EVEN A SLOPPY BLOB OF D-SHAPED SOLDER"

 

Way to go guys, I also reported it.

 

I reported the auction as well. The bidders are blind in one eye and cant see out of the other if they cant tell this is an altered mm. A bad attempt at that.

 

I can't wait to see this one come tumbling down.

This is a much more serious scam than most. Most are just delusional guys wanting $10,000 for a bag of "unsearched" wheaties - this one is an outright forgery.

I would think it's a felony. Maybe it depends on how much money is involved.

 

The thing that ticks me off the most is this person knows it's a fake, he knew it before he listed it, now he knows many people are on to his scam and he still keeps the coin listed trying to steal money from some uneducated person.

 

Yep......

 

I reported it as well.


BTW, Jack, love the avatar

 

This guys ebay id is qualitycoinsforcollectors. I believe he should change it to forgerycoinsforsuckers. I reported this guy before I even posted here. I also sent him a message asking him to remove the listing as the coin was obviously altered.

 

Reported it too. Suprised the listing is still there...

 

It is absolutely a d. Poorly done, it's missing the lower legs but still a d - a Russian d. I didn't know the US minted any dimes in Russia. Maybe it was in the Rotarian's area D. Maybe it stands for something else. whichever way you look at it a VERY rare coin that must be worth MILLIONS!

 

Actually, Ed, probably not a fake.
Just a poorly struck MM.
Nice 'S' tho.

 

As I stated above, probably not altered MM.
Just poorly struck, and it does look like an S.

 

IMHO it doesn't look like an "s", it looks like as 900fine said "like a drop of solder", but blob "s" mint marks are common

 

I just dropped a line to Susan McMillan. She should be interested in this one.

 

Frank may have a point ,it looks like an s from the one reverse photo, but the closeup looks like something, I don't know what has been done to the mintmark. 5 days to go and the bid is up to $305. With all the complaints I'm suprised the listing is still there. If ebay removes the listing the guy will probably get in contact somehow with the high bidder, make up some bs story and try to sell it to him for his high bid.

 

Who is Susan McMillan?

 

The lead counterfiet detector at the ANA. She has helped in the past to get ebay frauds booted.

 

Using photos from Lange's book, I can see it as a filled MM on one of the repunched "S" dies. The notch in the lower left corner, and the overall outline leads me in that direction. The PCGS Counterfeit guide also states that the MM punch for 16-D is the same as used on the 14-D cent. That blob is nowhere near the shape of that MM. I tried to find some other die diagnostics for the 16-D but you wouldn't be able see them from those photos.

As always, your mileage may vary...

Rick L.

 

Quote from Breen's Encyclopedia " Forgeries are plentiful, most often fabricated by affixing mintmarks to genuine Philadelphia coins, or by altering S to D on genuine 1916 S coins. The Busby gang made thousands in Los Angeles (1958); others made tens of thousands more in Milwaukee ca. 1968-73, and elsewhere in later years, in all grades. Cast counterfeits also exist. Authentication is mandatory!"
Sounds like this may be one of those coins.