New guy hoping to verify (Real or fake)

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Malcolm Shaw, Dec 13, 2018.

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Real or fake

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  1. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

    Here is the reverse.

    1. That coin was sold to me as a Commodus. You are referring to the denarius I posted about 10 posts up?
    2. That seller has a bunch of similar coins, no detail on them at all, to me they look like a crude, bad copy of just outlines.
    3. I looked up other examples and the letters just looked weird, but I am trying to get some knowledge.

    Believe me, I’ll be happy just with, it doesn’t appear to be fake.

    Here is a link if you are curious about this seller’s large collection of similar silver coins that are all worn identically.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-A...122867?txnId=1069925702024#vi__app-cvip-panel
     

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  3. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

    I’m thinking I made the right call on the group of three. I am seeing coins with similar issues on the forgery network. The coins have similar issues with beads tirning into blobs.
     
  4. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

    ''Here is a link if you are curious about this seller’s large collection of similar silver coins that are all worn identically''
    The company is based in Cyprus, the coins located in Ukraine……………………..
     
  5. Silverlock

    Silverlock Well-Known Member

    I don’t know if they’re real or fake, and I’d bet money the seller doesn’t know either. The seller’s other listings look like standard pawn shop fare: bullion, US coins, cards, spoons. The impressive amount of positive feedback is from those items. My guess is the seller was offered the coins, he shot them with an XRF gun, confirmed silver, and offered half melt. The question isnt whether the seller is honest, he probably is, the question is whether the guy holding the pawn ticket is honest. Of him, we know nothing.
     
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  6. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I edited my previous post so that it says "Commodus" and is now correct.

    Why are so many very worn coins offered by one seller? It is possible to imagine a hoard was discovered that at the time it was deposited had some very worn very old coins and more-recent coins with less wear that are now more desirable to collectors. The finder, or first buyer, may well separate out the better coins and attempt to sell them in a different way, leaving a number of very worn coins to deal with. Even a very worn coin has some value, but major dealers don't want them. I can imagine someone, who did not have access to the good coins from the hoard, buying the rest and putting them on eBay.
     
  7. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

    Thanks for clarifying. That is his claim, that he bought a hoard, but how can just his hoard all look the same? I happened to bid on another auction:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-4-A...rentrq:b8b981e71670ab10a450c69cfffeed48|iid:1

    I believe one of the coins is similar to what I bought. I just don’t picture the coin wearing like that.

    What would you say your confidence level is to it not being a fake? I know you can’t weigh it right now.
     

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  8. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

    I just wanted you to see that I replied above. Thank you for your time on this.
     
  9. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

    He sent me a picture of his hoard. They all look identical in the lack of detail, even where they haven’t been worn.
     

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  10. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    Nothing screams fake about these.
     
  11. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

    I sure appreciate the input. On yours I can at least see a hint that there was detail. On his, it is just silluettes, and what screams fake most is where I compared his to another coin a few posts up. If you look closely, there is metal where there shouldn’t be, note the waist is much lower in the example coin, than the subject coin.

    Having said that, I have nothing left to scrutinize, so I guess am am grateful to probably being wrong about buying a fake. Funny to be trying to convince people that I got duped and have a consensus that it seems legit.

    Thanks again.
     
  12. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    The Antonine period was prosperous and many transactions were made in the mid second century. Coins circulated for decades. I can imagine someone specifically taking them out of circulation and hoarding them during one of the numerous debasements in later years.
     
  13. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

    Thank you all very much.
     
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