New guy hoping to verify (Real or fake)

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Malcolm Shaw, Dec 13, 2018.

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  1. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Those more seasoned will correct me if I'm wrong, but they look OK to me.

    That listing has ended but has been relisted.

    Welcome.

    PS- the plural of "denarius" is denarii.

    PPS- random, irrelevant commentary- I hate scribbly coin holders. It's just me. Whoever the person was who labeled those seemed to go out of their way to add additional scribbles just for the sake of scribbling. But I digress.
     
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  4. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

    Much appreciated.
     
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  5. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

    I’m curious about your « red flags ». What are they ? For me, blurry pictures and « no returns accepted » are very suspicious.....
     
  6. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    If I may add : when (if) I identify red flags, I simply don't bid

    Q
     
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  7. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

    He cancelled, but insists they are real. It was after I won that I noticed what looked like air bubble holes on this one.
     

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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I don't see anything that looks out of the ordinary there.

    I think these ancient flans were cast before they were struck, in any event?
     
  9. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Cucumbor said it best, I could not agree more. I have in past bought a "modern" world gold coin from e-bay, but....I checked sellers record/ which was 100 percent favorable/ also coin in question a AV 10 Franken 1946 Lichtenstein was slabbed by PGGS as MS-67. Sellers (dealer) price was way better the auction archives for this coin.
    John
     
  10. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

    I was also concerned by how beads turn into globs of metal.
     

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  11. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

    All of the sellers I have bought from have 100% feedback and guarantee authenticity.
     
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  12. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

    Here, there is a missing bead, but no distortion of the metal where it would be and the letter next to it is clear.
     

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  13. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

    While I am this topic, I would like to share this one, which is coming from Ukraine. I was fine until I started looking at his other auctions.

    This seller is coins-rare, he has 100% feedback. I even know the coin this is supposed to be. I believe this is actually completely fake, but maybe some knowledgeable person will tell me that is real.
     

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  14. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    100% feedback with 100% authenticity guarantee on EBay = 100% nothing.

    I just invented a new proverb, “Know the coin or know the dealer.”
     
  15. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Try vcoins.com for genuine coins.
     
  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I don't know who coined the phrase, but it's been said many times over. "KCKD"
     
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  17. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

    Thanks. I just want a few because they are interesting. I’m not trying to make money, but I don’t want to be that poor soul who spends decades caring for something to find out that it was a fake.
     
  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    There are reputable Ebay sellers. Heck even some of the posters here on CT sell on Ebay. However, as a new Ancients collector, it is better to get to know what you are looking at, and Ebay is not the place to learn (unless you have money to burn on possible fakes). KCKD!
     
  19. Malcolm Shaw

    Malcolm Shaw New Member

    I did have luck with a dealer at a Renessance fair decades ago. Those were lost in a burglary and I was just wanting to get a few to have.

    I thought it was safe given these sellers have thousands of positive and 100% ratings. That has to mean something, but I’ll check out actual dealers, thanks.
     
  20. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Ebay encourages only positive feedback. If a coin is returned, often it's impossible to leave feedback. Besides, many coins are purchased on Ebay from individuals w/o any knowledge of the hobby, and walk around happy as a pig in it's sty thinking they got a great deal (see how I cleaned that up?).
     
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  21. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    As has been often said on this forum, some images enough to be sure coin is fake, but images are not enough to be certain a coin is genuine. However, most fakes can be detected with good images. Looking at a seller's other auctions is a very good idea. If any are fake, the seller is best avoided.

    On the other hand, many sellers have genuine coins they wish to sell. If they go through a dealer, the dealer must take a good-sized cut. If the seller wants to avoid that, what option is there besides eBay?

    Also, some serious dealers sell on eBay. Some hold back their best coins for major auctions, but sell coins worth up to hundreds of dollars on eBay. So, eBay sales must be considered with caution, but are not always bad.

    Getting back to the worn [EDIT: Commodus] coin (of which only the obverse was shown), I see nothing to suggest it is not ancient.
     
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