Hormazd IV Drachm - Quite the Stumper

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  1. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    While helping my son pick out 10 coins ("How can I only pick 10 dad?!") to show his cub scout den for his collecting badge, he pulled this one out as one of the ones he wanted to show. This was one of the coins he received last month from a forum member to help him learn to better ID. He loves it for the size, the interesting design, and the beautiful rainbow toning that radiates from the center of the coin, which I was unfortunately unable to capture in my sub-par pictures.

    We realized then, that we have been unable to identify it properly. We weighed it (4.14g) and tried to guesstimate the diameter (approx 30mm). I showed him the crescent moon on the obverse and explained to him that it was an Islamic religious symbol. We decided to google "silver islamic 4.14g coin" haha...very scientific ;)

    Lo-and-behold, it came back with some results that were fairly similar!

    With a few slightly more refined searches we were able to confidently narrow it down to a ruler. With that being said, we are not able to tell the mint or year. Now, both of those are listed on the envelope that the coin came in BUT we would like to be able to do it ourselves.

    Here is the coin and our Identification:

    Hormazd IV
    570-590 AD
    Drachm, 4.14g
    Obverse: Bust of Hormizd IV right, wearing tall cap, crenellated crown with crescent and diadem tie below elevated globe, crescent at front, star left and right. Short beard, small ball of hair, moustache; diadem behind each shoulder, crescent on each shoulder. 1 ring, star and crescent symbols.
    Reverse: Fire altar with upturned diadem ties. Two facing attendants wearing crowns with globe, holding staff resting on the ground in front. Star left, crescent right of flames. 1 ring.
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    We found here that his coins were dated 1-12 on his coin for the years of his rule:
    "Hormozd left no monuments. His coins portray him wearing a crown similar to that of his father but with a very high cap; they are dated to year 1 through 12 of his reign"

    We also found an example of the coin that is dated 590 here on the British Museum's website. Our inscriptions look quite similar but I'm not confident enough to say that they are exact.

    Does anyone have any website resources on these coins? We sure would like to see them if you have them! Also, if you have any drachms, please post them. We'd love to see them! Thanks for looking!
     
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  3. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    i think those Zoroastrian (coins) are kool..good thought good words good deeds..can't go wrong with that mind set in my book :)
     
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  4. Parthicus

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  5. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Wonderful coin! I sure hope you'll share with us the 10 coins you 2 decide upon:D
    Here are a few of my Parthian/Sassanian drachms:
    CollageMaker Plus_2018111018957730.png
    OrodesI
    Hellenistic Monarchies, The
    Parthian Kingdom - 80-77 BC.
    AR Drachm (17mm, 3.35g).
    Rhagae. Bust wearing a tiara
    with eight pointed star in centre
    to left, with short beard / Archer
    seated right on throne, seven
    line inscription. cf S.7389,
    Sellwood 31.6. Former Kairos
    Numismatik
    CollageMaker Plus_2018111018046987.png
    Shapur II
    Sasanian Kingdom AD 309-
    379. Drachm AR
    23mm., 4,04g.
    Bust of Shapur II right, wearing
    mural crown with korymbos and
    inner ribbon / Fire altar with
    ribbon and bust right in flames,
    flanked by two attendants, each
    wearing mural crown with
    korymbos, legend on altar shaft.
    very fine. Former Savoca
    CollageMaker Plus_2018111017593230.png Khusro I: 531-579 (Sonof
    Kavad I)
    AR Drachm, Year 32 (563/564),
    Veh-Kavad pwzn | hwslwb
    Facing bust, head right, wearing
    merlon crown with tassel to left
    and surmounted by crescent with
    |||: inside single dotted-border,
    crescents at 3, 6 and 9 o'clock
    dwcsyh | WYH Fire altar with two
    attendants standing facing,
    wearing tall headgear, both hands
    on sword hilt, all inside single
    dotted-border
    CollageMaker Plus_20181110175820736.png
    Khusro ii
    Drachm, Year 14 (603/604),
    Ram-Hormizd GDH apzwt | hwslwb
    Facing bust, head right, wearing
    winged crown with star and
    crescent, inside double dotted-
    border, crescents with stars at 3, 6
    and 9 o'clockAPD in lower-right
    margin chldh | RAM Fire altar with
    two attendants standing facing,
    both hands on sword hilt,
    crescents on heads, all inside triple
    dotted-border, crescents with stars
    at 3, 6, 9 and 12 o'clock
     

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  6. dougsmit

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  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The mint city is reverse right while the date is reverse left. Compare to these.
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    Below is the same date but different mint.
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  8. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    So If I'm reading this correctly...
    The city it was minted in is Veh-Kavad, Central Iraq/Southern District, or WYH
    The year it was minted is 12. Which would be the 12th year of Hormazd IV's reign...so 590 AD.

    Very cool.
    Thanks all for the info and great looking coin pictures!
     
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