Does anyone know if this is a VAM ? Is it worth more than the redbook listing? Here are the full views of the coin. [url]http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/~normansalter/reverse_cutout.jpg[/url][IMG] [url]http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/~normansalter/obverse_cutout.jpg[/url]
I can't really tell anything from the photo (but my eyes are bad). Do you think part of STATES is doubled on the reverse?
Reverse! thanks I was in a hurry. No doubling in the words,with the exception of a possible doubling north of the R in "TRUST". Scratch that I must have been seeing double.
There are six 1900-O VAMs with a slanted date. If nothing else is noticeable (doubling, etc), it's probably a VAM-38.
Interesting!... even if it doesn't make it more valuable, I assume? Sorry you can't see the doubled edge pattern, It is so obvious with my loupe. Perhaps I will try again to photograph close up.
I think values are only available for the Top 100 and Hot 50 Morgans. The VAM Book has the VAM-38 as an I-2 R-3. That's an INTEREST factor of 2 (minor die variety with some interest to variety collectors) and 3 on the RARITY scale (scarce, hundreds of thousands). The ranges go from I-1 to 5 and R-1 to 8. Don't think it would bring any extra premium unless it went to a specific collector (one that collects all 1900-O VAMs or all slanted date VAMs).... even then you're probably only talking about a couple extra bucks. It's still nice to have something you can identify as a variety. Now you just need someone with more experience and knowledge to confirm.
Thanks again Norm. I really like the convenience of the link to my pictures also. I was able too enlarge my photos and see details.What do you think it would grade? Ef-40
I'll have to leave the grading to the experts. If I guessed, I would say a little lower... like VF or F (but I haven't been close yet). Oh yeah... if you have the IMG tag at the beginning of each link and /IMG at the end, the picture will display in the thread.
"Oh yeah... if you have the IMG tag at the beginning of each link and /IMG at the end, the picture will display in the thread." I did that by accident first and then edited it. I wasn't sure if it was better that way. So far no experts have responded to this thread, I wonder if anyone will. BTW your input has been very helpful. I sort of got side tracked on this VAM research.Prior to this endevor I was attempting to find out if I have an RPM on a 1969 D nickel. Havn't been able to get a close up yet to post. I think it may be a new one, more info on this when I start the new thread. Digger
If that coin has mint luster still visible ( can't tell in the pic ) it's an XF 40 - if not VF35 By the way - are you sure there are any experts ?? Cuz I sure aint one
Compared to me, there are many experts here including NESVT. I don't think any mint luster is present. I did play with my photos last night and tried to enhance the edge pattern. Can anyone (expert or not) tell me what this is ?
I do see what you mean about the doubling in the denticles - but afraid I can't offer any help in determining which VAM it might be.
"denticles" So that's what they are called. Thanks GD! Thought I was the only one that could see it until you spoke up. I don't know that it is a VAM, I was hoping someone might recognize the double denticles and confirm that at least it is an error of somekind. check out this rare doudle die morgan I found when I did a search for denticles. http://www.byersnc.com/1921dsmorgan.html I wonder if my coin is a true double denticle or some kind of strike double? Is that is even possible? Not sure if that link will work so I am pasting it again below. http://www.byersnc.com/1921dsmorgan.html It appears to be the same so one or both of them should work.
Ohhhh... I get it now. When you first mentioned "doubling", I thought you meant the letters. Unfortunately the denticle doubling on your coin is very commom. I think it's something like mechanical or ejection doubling. I bet a third of my coins have the same thing. I attached a picture. Hold on... I have to catch my breath from laughing about that expert comment. With the help of the folks here, I do feel like I've gone from a green newbie to an intermediate novice. That link you posted is pretty cool. The denticles at the bottom are doubled... two rows. There are also some VAMs with "date in denticles" and other letters in denticles. The spaces between the denticles will show part of the number/character above it. On a side note, when I mailed your prize from last week's contest, I noticed something. I picked up those coins last year about ten minutes from your home. What a coincidence. I'll send you a PM with the location. Norm
Exactly ! See, I was right you are an expert. I had a feeling you could see the denticles well enough. Sorry for the confusion, I was very ignorant as to how to describe the denticles. I have learned quite a bit from many people in this forum as well as you. Problem solved! Thanks everyone!
