Slabbed AT, but is it? Official Game Thread

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  1. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    People will use heavy smoke like cigar smoke to create a dark layer over the entire coin. It subdues luster but hides hairlines caused by cleaning. And it doesn't look like toning, it has a strange appearance in hand.
     
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  3. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    This coin has perfect toning correspondence, which for the first time I've ever seen is actually a bad thing. Toning correspondence needs to match when the coin was subject to a toning source that can affect both sides of the coin. The toning on this coin was meant to mimic crescent toning which is caused by another coin blocking part of the coin from coming in contact with the canvas bag. In that scenario, how could the other side of the coin also be crescent toned? Even on a Morgan Dollar, this pattern would indicate AT.

    Additionally, these colors just aren't found on Peace Dollars, the elevation chromatics don't exist, and it is a low grade common date Peace Dollar. We have discussed in other threads the importance of scrutinizing any Peace Dollar with rainbow toning. This coin is undoubtedly AT.
     
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  4. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Summary of results:
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    Coin 1 - Monroe Silv Commem (pg.1) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 2 - Silv Ike (pg.1) - 2 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 3 - Morgan (pg.2) - some sort of details
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    NT/MA (holder is wrong): 0 total
    AT/QC (holder is right): 2 total
    Other: 1 total

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    Points:
    ron_c - 1 point ...for the curve-ball Morgan :p
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  5. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Let's keep going with the Peace Dollar

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  6. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast


    AT
     
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  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Summary of results:
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    Coin 1 - Monroe Silv Commem (pg.1) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 2 - Silv Ike (pg.1) - 2 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 3 - Morgan (pg.2) - some sort of details
    Coin 4 - Silv Ike (pg.1) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
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    NT/MA (holder is wrong): 0 total
    AT/QC (holder is right): 3 total
    Other: 1 total

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    Points:
    ron_c - 1 point ...for the curve-ball Morgan :p
     
  8. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    How about this Morgan?

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  9. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    My first reaction was that it looked ok, but then I started looking more. With the EORs, or the ATs that are supposed to look like EORs, what I try to do is envision the flaps on the end of a roll. How would the flaps have been arranged to produce the pattern shown? And for this one, I just can't picture it. The long white strip through the center just doesn't fit, and the progression of colors from k6 to k8 doesn't seem to match the flap pattern.

    I'm going to agree with PCGS that this is questionable.
     
  10. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    This looks like someone used a rubber band then rolled the coin in paper. The toning just doesn’t look vibrant enough or have any other indicator of AT other than the crazy pattern.

    I’m NT/MA on this one.
     
  11. ron_c

    ron_c Well-Known Member

    I would pass this one by but I think it is NT. Probably from a roll that had the ends that folded down (not rolled) or put in some sort of paper or thin cardboard and kept there for some time.
     
  12. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Questionable
     
  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

  14. Coinsailor

    Coinsailor Member

    Artificial to me but it’s pretty it’s to even all around
     
  15. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    I vote regular toning as I have one toning the same way
     
  16. Charles REid

    Charles REid Active Member

  17. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    @capthank we have moved on to the 1890 Morgan that is on this page. Please share your thoughts on that coin. :)
     
  18. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    The pink, red, blue transition are bothers me. Not blatant AT, but I agree with questionable color.
     
  19. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Summary of results:
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    Coin 1 - Monroe Silv Commem (pg.1) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 2 - Silv Ike (pg.1) - 2 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 3 - Morgan (pg.2) - some sort of details
    Coin 4 - Silv Ike (pg.2) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
    Coin 5 - Morgan (pg.3) - 3 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
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    NT/MA (holder is wrong): 0 total
    AT/QC (holder is right): 4 total
    Other: 1 total

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    Points:
    ron_c - 1 point ...for the curve-ball Morgan :p
     
  20. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    Oops.. everyone is human. 77 (3).JPG 77 (4).JPG 77 (4).JPG 77 (5).JPG
     
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