Let's march through time with Roman Imperials!

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  1. jonathan layne

    jonathan layne Well-Known Member

    im new to this and dont know how to post, can someone help me
     
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  3. lrbguy

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    Having just spent a few hours working these up, I will show some of the Sabina varieties before rushing on. Sabina has many faces, even on the denarius. I have been playing with that for a while now and will do a thread on it. But here are a couple of examples:
    Mattingly groups the coins of Sabina into 5 groups according to obverse legend, three of which occur on silver.

    Group III - SABINA AVGVSTA - HADRIANI AVG P P
    there are 5 main bust types for this group. Here I show type "c" with her hair piled on the top of her head in a stye very much like that of her mother, Matidia -
    sabina01-nn261-sm.jpg
    The reverse features the figure of Vesta seated left holding the Palladium forward in her right hand and supporting a scepter in her left (not transverse). The figures below her throne are reminiscent of the ornamental acroteria that appear later on certain architectural issues (e.g Maxentius). In the exergue appear the senate confirmation letters S C which typically do not appear on denarii.

    Group IV - SABINA - AVGVSTA

    The first and third of the bust types used in Group three are also used here. Type "c" is similar to the above, and type "a" appears here:
    sabina01-sv227-sm.jpg

    This features a plait that runs down the back of her neck, and rises to a crest over her stephane above her diadem.

    The reverse features Concordia (CONCOR - DIA AVG) seated on throne to left, holding out a patera in her right hand and resting her left elbow on a statue of Spes. Directly below her seat is a cornucopia.

    Group 5 (Posthumous) - DIVA AVG - SABINA

    Although Mattingly does not discuss it there is a surprising amount of variety among the busts of her posthumous issues. Not all of these are veiled, but the bulk of them are. The most characteristic look is shown here:

    sabina01-nac1000-sm.jpg

    The veil covers her back braid, giving the appearance of an appendage behind her.

    The reverse features a horned altar with four panels in front on a door. This is surrounded on three sides by the inscription PIE - TATI - AVG.

    In addition to the three main classes of denarii, Mattingly also provides a listing of hybrids of questionable origin. This next coin is one of those:
    sabina01-htg39-sm.jpg

    The INDVLGENT I A AVG PP reverse is normally used with coins of Hadrian, and bears the characteristic COS III in the exergue.

    There's plenty more where that came from, but it deserves a thread of its own.
     
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  4. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

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    Antoninus Pius AE As
    Rome Mint 143-144 AD
    Obverse: ANTONINVS AVG PIVS P P TR P COS III Laureate head right
    Reverse: IMPERATOR II S C Jupiter, seated left, holding thunderbolt and sceptre
    References: RIC 727a Rare
    Size: 28mm, 12.50g
    "There are no records of any military related acts in his time in which he participated. One modern scholar has written "It is almost certain not only that at no time in his life did he ever see, let alone command, a Roman army, but that, throughout the twenty-three years of his reign, he never went within five hundred miles of a legion".[34](wiki) His 23 year reign was the most peaceful of the entire history of the empire. He freed many slaves and rescinded the death penalty hanging over the heads of many senators from his predecessor. He also allowed many of the Jewish Rabbinic sages to go free from hiding who also were under a death edict for teaching their religion. He rescinded the edicts that forbid the Jews and other religious minorities to practice their beliefs. Talmudic anecdotes include his close friendship with two Rabbinic sages in particular who during their visit to Rome it is said healed his ailing daughter who I believe must have been Faustina II as I mentioned in an earlier post about the whole incident. He left the treasuries full for those who followed his reign. upload_2018-12-5_17-56-27.png
    Antoninus Pius
    Macedonia, As a Roman Province (Koinon) 137-161 AD
    Obverse: AYT K T AI ANTWNINOC Laureate, draped bust right
    Reverse: KOINON MAKEDONWN Ares standing left holding spear and wreath
    Moushmov: -, Sear -, Lindgren -, BMC - Very Rare
    Size: 27mm, 9.92g
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    Antoninus Pius AE Sestertius
    Rome Mint 153-154 AD

    Obverse: ANTONINVS AVG PIVS PP TR P XVI Laureate head right
    Reverse: INDVLGENTIA AVG COS IIII Indulgentia seated left on throne, extending hand and holding scepter; SC in exergue
    References: RIC 904
    Size: 32mm, 20.08g



     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  6. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Whoooooooa.:wideyed: That Matidia though...Thanks for sharing @lrbguy.

    I've always loved the almost spectral visage of Antoninus Pius. But what a great and under appreciated emperor!
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    Antoninus Pius (138-161
    AD). AR Denarius (18 mm,
    3.39 g), Roma (Rome), 153-
    154 AD.
    Obv. ANTONINVS AVG
    PIVS P P TR P XVII,
    laureate head right.
    Rev. COS IIII, Vesta
    standing holding simpulum
    and Palladium.
    RIC III, 229b.
    Nicely toned
     
  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Sestertii of Antoninus Pius and his wife, Faustina I:

    Antoninus Pius Annona Sestertius.jpg
    Antoninus Pius Annona Sestertius Sulzer listing.JPG

    Faustina Sr AVGVSTA Vesta standing sestertius.jpg
    Faustina Sr AVGVSTA Vesta standing sestertius Sulzer listing.JPG
     
  8. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

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    You just did! Congrats on the 1st step. "Post reply" if you wanna comment on someone else's thread or start your own by selecting "post new thread".
    Pretty user friendly and everyone around the joint is pretty coo. Just wipe your feet on the mat;) And if you need any help please reach out:D
     
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  9. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    It is hard not to love Faustina I's hair. In a long line of Roman empresses with unique hairstyles, hers is right up there.
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    Diva FaustinaSenior
    wife of Antoninus Pius (141 BCE). Silver
    denarius (3.69 gm). Ca. 147-161. DIVA FAV—
    STINA, draped bust of Diva Faustina right with
    jewels in her hair / AETER-NITAS, Aeternitas
    or Juno standing facing, head left, raising right
    hand and holding scepter. BMCRE 345. RIC
     
  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  11. Numisnewbiest

    Numisnewbiest Well-Known Member

    Love these Faustinas!
     
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  12. Numisnewbiest

    Numisnewbiest Well-Known Member

  13. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

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    Antoninus Pius, Sestertius - Rome mint, AD 140/144
    ANTONINVS AVG PIVS P P TR P COS III, laureate head right
    PROVIDENTIAE DEORVM, winged thunderbolt, S - C in field
    25.86 gr, 31 mm
    Ref : Cohen #682, RCV # 4208, RIC III # 618


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    Diva Faustina, Denarius - Rome mint, after AD 147
    DIVA FAVSTINA, Draped bust right with pearls in hair
    AVGV STA, Vesta standing left, draped and veiled, holding simpulum and palladium
    3.29 gr, 18 mm
    Ref : RCV #4587, RIC III # 368, Cohen #108

    Q
     
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  14. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    AAAAAAARGH!

    Well I screwed that up pretty good, so now it's time to fess up and fix it. In the Sabina group I posted above I showed the wrong coin for the second example.

    This is the coin I intended to show there for Group IV.
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    The coin with the irridescent obverse toning is from Group III not Group IV; same obverse legend as the first coin. The rest of the details are pretty much as described, but now the figure of Concordia sits more erect with her left hand holding a scepter. Still has the cornucopia under the seat, as I see it.
    That's how similar they are to one another. See?
    sabina01-sv227-sm.jpg

    Sorry for the confusion.
     
  15. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Does anyone have - - Galerius Antoninus, son of Antoninus Pius and Faustina I?
     
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  16. asheland

    asheland The Silver Lion

    Great thread!
     
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  17. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    To be honest I have never even heard of this dude. I hope someone has an example.
     
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  18. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Great point. I searched the sites history and he has never been posted here. I've borrowed this image from wild winds so we can keep moving...
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    Faustina Senior & Galerius Antoninus AE27 As of uncertain Greek mint (Cyprus?). ΘEA ΦAYCTEINA, draped bust right / M ΓAΛEΡIOC ANTΩNINOC AYTOKΡATOΡOC ANTΩNINOY YIOC, draped bust right.
     
  19. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Here's the hit list going forward. It has some of muy favorite rare/short lived emperors and their fams:
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  20. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

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    Antoninus Pius (138-161 A.D.)
    Egypt, Alexandria
    Billon Tetradrachm
    O: ΑVΤ Κ Τ ΑΙΛ [ΑΔΡ] – ΑΝΤWΝΙΝΟС – [EVСEΒ], Bareheaded and draped bust right.
    R: L ENΔEKATOV, Dikaiosyne seated left, holding scales and cornucopia. Dated RY 11 (147/48 A.D)
    24mm
    11.9g
    Emmett 1377.11

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    FAUSTINA Sr. (138-141 AD)
    AR Denarius
    Lifetime Issue
    O: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, Draped bust right.
    R: IVNONI REGINAE, Peacock seated on throne and scepter behind.
    18mm
    3.5g
    RIC-340, RSC-221 BMC (Antoninus Pius) 145 (same reverse die)

    Ex Robert Kutcher Collection (Triton X, 8 January 2007), lot 1606 (part of)
     
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    randygeki Coin Collector

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