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  1. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

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  3. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I don't know enough about the coin to comment on it. However, he has as good a return policy as I have seen on eBay. Also, that may be the best feedback I have ever seen on eBay.
     
  4. Something like that I would want PCGS/NGC/ANACS-ICG to certify first.
     
  5. Jako lipo

    Jako lipo New Member

    i dont see the diagnostic die breaks that he states
     
  6. I agree, the coin is well struck, but I am not 100% convinced its a proof. I would not shell out the money for a raw example.
     
  7. alpha480v

    alpha480v Senior Member

    Nice looking cent, but it doesn't look like a proof to me.
     
  8. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Thats some amazing feedback to say the least !!!

    With him being able to provide decent close-ups/macro pics, I would ask for pics of "GOD" " WE " and "TRUST", both obverse dies have polish thru WE, and die #1 and #2 are distinguished by polish and gouges thru TRUST and GOD. The die line that they are showing under M in UNUM is also on some business strikes. I have heard of no neck/chin line on the 1910 MPL.

    Either way, 100% return and such excellent feedback may be worth it, if you want an impaired proof, it just might be......worse case scenario, you tie up some $$$ for a while
     
  9. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    That is one heck of a nice 1910, but I'm not sure if it is a matte or not. We'll have to wait and see I guess.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    what do you have to lose for $10 opening.
    But, it does look like a circ. proof to me.
    But I have been known to be wrong before.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    How many lottery tickets do you buy a week ? No, I'm not being a wise guy, I'm being serious. I ask that question because that is in effect what you are doing by bidding on such auctions.

    If you can't positively identify the coin as being what it is purported to be - then don't even consider bidding. All you are doing by bidding is taking a gamble - and most people lose when they gamble, just like with lottery tickets.

    If you want a Matte Proof Lincoln, buy one already slabbed and certified as such.
     
  12. bzcollektor

    bzcollektor SSDC Life Member

    I`m right there with GD on this one....

    Seller has no return policy to back up his perhaps legitimate observation on this coin...
     
  13. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Tom,

    I don't believe that it is a Matte Proof! Although the rims are square, the depth and boldness of the Strike does not appear deep and strong enough and since the Dies for the Business Strike Cents and the Proof Cents both were made using the same damaged Master Die, many 1910-P "Business Strike" Cents have the same diagnostic Die Scratch as the Proofs.

    I have copied and pasted the links provided by Leadfoot when I asked abouth the diagnostics for both the 1909-P VDB and 1910-P Proof Cents.


    Warning: The pictures take a very long time to load.

    1910 MPL: http://forums.collectors.com/message...keyword2=matte

    1909 VDB MPL: http://forums.collectors.com/message...keyword2=matte


    Frank
     
  14. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Frank,

    There are no images at your links.
     
  15. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    I would bet that coin is not a Matte Proof, and while I might be incorrect, those who take the other side of the action are fighting long odds.
     
  16. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Yeah...agreed. I would rather have a nice bus strike UNC than any impaired proof, which this probably isnt. There have been a rash of them on the bay.....all " possible " MP's, none are, they are just super hot right now, best way to get good cash is to say MP????
     
  17. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Hobo,

    Yes, it appears that the server that hosts the smaller pics is probably down right now! However, if you wait long enough, a MEGA sized picture will eventually begin to load. As the warning states, it will take a very long for the picture to load unless you have a very fast Internet connection.


    Frank
     
  18. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Frank, I clicked on them, and got this message:

    For some reason they aren't going through at all for me.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  19. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

  21. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I do not know enough to say tht is a prood in the auction. However, the 2 die scratches he points out are either identical to the proof in the forum or someone knew exactly where to put them. i.e. put scratches on the coin. They look perfectly placed to me.
     
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