2017D ddo/ddr?

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  1. Dagwood177

    Dagwood177 Member

    Well almost a year in collecting and I think this is my first dd find. Well...... I hope so. I said that the last 10 I thought were.
     

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  3. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    these new minting process does not allow doubled dies on the newer coins anymore. Cherrypickers find oddities in the different dies, and some anomalies do occur, but no true DD anymore.
     
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  4. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    Lies,lies all lies!!!
     
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  5. Dagwood177

    Dagwood177 Member

    So wexlers is not a credible source and you don't see doubling in my pics?
     
  6. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    I don't see anything other than a really shiny coin that is making u think u see DD also called shadow doubling and there is machine doubling as well.
    1 in pic 2 the C has no notching/split serif on the upper part of the C on the inner top curve of the C you can is the ledge getting higher and now on the back of the inner side of the C the self is disappearing into the lower inside curve of the C without making notching/split serif
    2 pic 3 is shadow doubling move the coin around and the double will disappear
    3 pic 4, 5 is also shadow doubling move the coin around and the double will disappear
    4 pic 6 is machine doubling the O and N.. the O you can only see the MD on the top inside northeast part of the O if it was doubled you should see double on the lower southwest part of the O opposites of each other and on the outside of the O and at the same level of the O. N lets start on the \ of the N the lower side of the \ is where your seeing the double right? that is MD the bottom of the \ there is no notching/split serif the line kind of blends back into the lower part of the in l N
     
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  8. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Most are class 8 .
    But don't kid yourself .
    There's been some nice class 4 found, from single squeeze hubbing .
     
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  9. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    news to me, thanks
     
  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    Since there is one (a single squeeze) die transfer, how could there be a class 4 which is a offset between the first and following hubbing? It may have the appearance of a class 4, but it should have a different term IMO which doesn't mean a lot to most. Maybe SS-4 or MD-4, since the movement of the single hubbing has to produce the 'stuttering' effect on the die that produces the doubling on the coin. It seem it should be a classification of MD, but on the die production rather than the coin. I am half and half on type VIII, but not fully acceptable to me as a DD. Most should fit into Wexler and Flynn's classification IX which they call " Only God knows". My feeling is that by calling them a doubled die was a commercial direction and a misnomer, but I guess I am Ancient school with doubled dies naming. I guess I am with Amos on this :) , Jim
     
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  11. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    To me .
    Class 4, is class 4 .

    Now, then, and in the future ...
    Even coneca list the class 4 ones too ....
     
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  12. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    do you need a microscope to enjoy those new class 4s?
     
  13. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Same as any class 4s ( 10x ) .......
     
  14. SlipperySocks

    SlipperySocks Well-Known Member

    The E and R are VERY interesting in LIBERTY....... MD on ON in last picture.
     
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  15. Dagwood177

    Dagwood177 Member

    Thanks for all the info guys. I appriciate it.
     
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