Featured The Slabbed (NGC/PCGS) AT-QT (Artificial/Questionable Toning) Thread

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  1. Johndoe2000$

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  6. kSigSteve

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    AT

    Well I guess we can call that one.

    Do coins in this thread have to already be in TPG plastic or can they be raw?
     
  7. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    They have to be graded by PCGS or NGC.
     
  8. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    Gotcha, thank you. It would be interesting to see some AT holders that people feel should not be labeled as AT.

    Edit: I guess those coins wouldn’t be in holders for very long.:bucktooth:
     
  9. ddddd

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    Summary of results:
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    Coin 1 - Clad Dime (pg.1) - 2 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
    Coin 2 - Franklin (pg. 1) - 3 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)
    Coin 3 - CBH (pg. 4) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 4 - Silv PR Ike (pg. 5) - 3 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
    Coin 5 - Peace Dollar (pg. 7) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
    Coin 6 - Ohio Silv PR 25c (pg. 8) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 11 (AT/QC)
    Coin 7 - 1964 MS 25c (pg. 9) - 11 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 8 - 1974 Clad PR 25c (pg. 11) - 4 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 9 - 85-O Morgan (pg. 12) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC) *no points*
    Coin 10 - 1890 IHC (pg. 13) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 3 (AT/QC)
    Coin 11 - 1893 Col. Commem (pg. 14) - 10 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 12 - Silver 3c (pg. 15) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 13 - SBA (pg. 16) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 14 - Large Cent (pg. 16) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 15 - Franklin (pg. 17) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 14 (AT/QC)
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    NT/MA: 9 total
    AT/QC: 6 total

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    Points:

    ddddd - 4
    Lehigh96 - 1
    TheFinn - 1
     
  10. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Next up is this dime (not mine).
    Note: if anyone has a coin to post, please comment and you can go right after this one ends tomorrow evening (11/28/18)

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  11. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I collected rainbow toned Roosevelt Dimes, I never saw anything that looked like that. My opinion is that liquid chemical solution was applied to that coin.

    AT

    I have a coin I would like to post next.
     
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  12. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    If that toning pattern were on a 1958, I probably wouldn't question it.

    But, on a 1964 it looks wrong. QT.
     
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  16. Pickin and Grinin

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  17. SlipperySocks

    SlipperySocks Well-Known Member

    Just curious why since they are both silver?

    QT
     
  18. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

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  20. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    In the 1940's and 1950's, the mint issued mint sets in cardboard packaging. The cardboard contained trace amounts of sulfur, which tended to cause attractive toning. 1958 was the last year these cardboard mint sets were issued, but they have some of the most spectacular toning. You often see vivid, rainbow patterns like this. Starting in 1959, the mint sets were issued in plastic, which did not tend to tone the coins.

    Thus, toned coins from 1964 are less common, especially with this type of toning. It is certainly possible, as many aftermarket holders were still made of cardboard - just less common.
     
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  21. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I join @Lehigh96, it looks like some kind of liquid was involved. I'm AT on this one.
     
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