Improperly Cleaned

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by taurus876, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. taurus876

    taurus876 Senior Member

    Can anyone tell me how this coin is 'improperly cleaned'?

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  3. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    The terminology is pretty much of a tautology IMHO.

    The coin looks overdipped to me.
     
  4. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I agree - overdipped. The coin has no luster.
     
  5. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    The obverse, in particular, looks polished to me.
     
  6. WoodenSpoon Boy

    WoodenSpoon Boy New Member

    you can really tell by the cheek , very smoothed out
     
  7. luc87

    luc87 Lmcoins

    dipped too long?
     
  8. Jako lipo

    Jako lipo New Member

    i agree overdipped

    BTW i love the new(?) NCS clear holder
     
  9. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    I disagree. It doesn't merely look dipped or over dipped to me. It looks cleaned or polished - note the unnatural sheen on the obverse. That is not a dipped appearance.
     
  10. Jako lipo

    Jako lipo New Member

    could you please state the factors that make you conclude that mark? As you are obviously an expert it would be very helpful becuase i do not see any hairlines. All i see that could be suspect is possibly the reflectivity and the wear(?) on the head.

    Jacob
     
  11. Jako lipo

    Jako lipo New Member

    Also i do not understand why people do not consider "dipping" cleaning. Since you worked at NGC right? did you generally slab dipped examples? Thanks for your input.

    Jacob
     
  12. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    Jacob, forget about the hairlines, as they often don't show up in images. Look at the face and the fields on the obverse - the luster/sheen doesn't look right, or even subdued, as it might if the coin had just been dipped.

    Here's an NGC MS65 to show you what a high quality example looks like and below it is an AU50, which probably has been dipped but still looks very different from the one in this thread - I hope this will help, at least a little bit:

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  13. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    its lost its luster feeling.

    over dipped all the way
     
  14. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    And here's the original coin in question:

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  15. Jako lipo

    Jako lipo New Member

    yes i think i can tell what you are talking about the Cleaned coin looks almost greenish tint and looks reflective. Also how the color looks different underneath the letters which looks more like the ms-65.
    Is this correct?
     
  16. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    Yes, I am speaking of the semi-reflective appearance, which is completely unnatural. It looks as if it has been polished or buffed.
     
  17. Jako lipo

    Jako lipo New Member

    ty for the advice mark. Since you were a grader at NGC could yo tell me if obviously dipped examples of coins would get graded or sent to be BB'ed?
     
  18. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    You're most welcome. Dipping alone, will not prevent a silver or gold coin from being graded, as opposed to body-bagged. I singled out silver and gold coins because dipping more reactive) nickel and copper coins can more easily result in an unnatural appearance which will cause a coin to be body bagged. Even a silver or gold coin, if over-dipped, however, can result in a body-bag.
     
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