Would you call this a shattered die?

Here's a recent pickup of mine: 2005 5 Rupee coin from India. Would you consider this coin to be a shattered die?

 

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A lot of Rupees on ConTalk lately!

I say that is a Shattered Die. Nice!

 

Thanks! If I have my info correct, this die was originally intended for CuNi coins but got changed to steel. This would likely explain why the die shattered the way it did.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5708.html

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27777.html

 

I would say no it is not struck with a shattered die.
Definition: A “shattered die” features numerous intersecting die cracks. Along with the profusion of die cracks, a shattered die can also incorporate other forms of brittle fracture such as die breaks and retained die breaks.
http://www.error-ref.com/numerous_intersecting_bi-level_die_cracks/

 

Well.. Maybe a Pre-Shattered Die
A few more strikes and a lot more cracks would of appeared

 

Please define “numerous”

 

It says can, not must. It’s probably not the greatest example of such, but I feel that three intersecting lines that extend to the edge could constitute as a shattered die.

 

Retained Cud for sure ...

 

Shattered die. A strong crack here completely bisects the face of the coin, with an additional crack completely to the rim. This is indicative of the die stage though and is not an error coin.

 

Let's use the correct terms for the Obverse & Reverse .

Obverse is called: Hammer Die

Reverse is called: Anvil Die

 

But...
When I did a tour of the Philadelphia Mint a few months ago they showed a display where the Hammer Die held the Reverse image and the Anvil Die held the Obverse image..
I would of loved to have taken a picture of the display but no photography allowed inside the US Mint

 

I used error ref for the display .

Anvil ( reverse )
http://www.error-ref.com/anvil-die-retained-cud/

Hammer ( obverse )
http://www.error-ref.com/retained-cud-hammer-die/

 

Well, we know the mint has no ideal what's going on these days .
They ( mints ) say only class VIII doubling is caused from single squeezing hubbing . But class IV doubling is still being produced ..

 

It seems that the hammer die is not always the obv. If I remember some design elements are much more susceptible to damage. I would have to do some research to say that I am remembering correctly.

Actually this is a good read. It seems that through out the years the dies were inverted.
http://www.error-ref.com/inverted-dioe-installation/

 

Nice. I love die cracks.

 

Thanks! What’s your opinion? Shattered die or no?

 

numerous
IPA(key): /ˈnjuːməɹəs/ Hyphenation: nu‧mer‧ous numerous (comparative more numerous, superlative most numerous) Indefinitely large numerically, many.
In my book two does not equal Many. JMO

 

Yes, shattered.

 

It all depends on ones definition of a shattered die. You should have created a poll on this one. I would love to see the results.

 

Damn you. Was going to say die cracks. Shattered is to diffenitive. Are you guessing shattered. Cuz new wording throws me