1969 s Lincoln Cent DDO with die deterioration

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  1. dbeck22

    dbeck22 Member

    I know the coin is in rough shape, but I believe it's a 69 ddo-001 . The die markers are there. I found this article on ANACS that said....

    "The obverse die is marked by a die-polishing scratch from the right foot of the R in LIBERTY that passes diagonally through the field to Lincoln’s shoulder. A short but thicker scratch protrudes from the right side of the upright of the T in LIBERTY. The reverse die is identified by a series of polishing lines inside the first two bays on the left of the Memorial. There are two long die scratches from the base of the Memorial to the N in CENT. There are also numerous polishing lines that are found around the letters of E PLURIBUS UNUM that have a mostly vertical orientation."

    I have matched up every die marker and from what I can tell they are all there. does anyone else have an opinion? In this condition, what would the estimated value be? If I'm correct? 20181123_113807.jpg 20181123_113820.jpg 20181123_113846.jpg 20181123_113857.jpg 20181123_113916.jpg 20181123_113926.jpg 20181123_114004.jpg 20181123_114018.jpg


    Ive got several more pictures I have taken with my merlin magnifier. It has several effects also like enhanced-negative and black and white. You can see the doubling a lot better in some of those pics
     
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  7. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    No and please stop using the psychedelic function on your camera. It certainly did not make a case for what you hoped for.
     
  8. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    The 69DDO is easy to to recognize. If you aren't sure and have to ask, then you don't have it. Your coin isn't close. I don't have the link handy, but search the archives of Google the pcgs pics and it will be obvious that you don't have one
     
  9. Santinidollar

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    Pictures like those make it more difficult to make an accurate diagnosis, not easier. Stick to 5x or 10x magnification.
     
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  10. Mkman123

    Mkman123 Well-Known Member

    Not the big one, sorry
     
  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It has to be doubled, too, though. Aside from that, it looks good. :)
     
  12. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    The 69-S dd is very rare, and easy to spot with the naked eye.
    69sDD.jpg
     
  13. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Excellent post with definitive pictures!

    Why folks continue to ask the same question about their obviously undoubled die 1969-S coins is simply a mystery to me. Perhaps they do not have a complete grasp of the term "rare" which basically means, they're highly unlikely of EVER finding one of these in the wild! They could go thru millions of Lincolns and never find one.

    BUT, there's always the possibility and after they've looked at 1,000, 10,000, 100,000 or more, they'd DEFINITELY know, for sure, that it was a doubled die after looking at your photo's.
     
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  14. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    Do not confuse the die markers as the Main determination factor, they are only for confirmation of the variety. The doubling magnitude of the 69S-DDO-001 is the determination factor, if it is not there. the die markers do not mean anything. My steps ( similar for all varieties)
    1 Is the main determination Factors there such as in post 11? ( stop if no, go to step 2 if yes)
    2. Is it real ? ( use die markers and other references) (stop if no, go to step 3 if yes )
    3. Have you eliminated, visual problems ( such as lighting , resolution. etc. ) environmental or mechanical damage or deterioration) (yes. go to 4, no ? Learn to do so)
    4. If the value is higher than your cost + variety grading fee, send to a TPG if you wish, if no, just keep it
    or sell it as "possible", or hold it until one has more experience with similar varieties.

    Jim
     
  15. Tim99

    Tim99 New Member

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    question recent post by someone people saying badly damage but i have same year that looks exactly like it any opinion
     

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  16. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    Both are badly damaged.
     
  17. Tim99

    Tim99 New Member

    ok does having the same marking damages at the same place same length etc .. identical twin still consider damage or damsge during mintage
     
  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    No offense intended, but I would have to see the 2 coins next to each other in person or an unaltered photograph. Nearly 50 years in the game makes one very suspicious. Again, its not personal, just mathematical, Jim
     
  19. TyCobb

    TyCobb A product of PMD

    Is that coin made out of chocolate? o_O
     
  20. Tim99

    Tim99 New Member

    really u look like chocolate
     
  21. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    It's absolutely impossible for the coin you posted to have been minted that way. If you research the minting process, you'll easily see why this can't occur.
     
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