either this is a rip off or im getting a major steal

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by stainless, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Now you've discovered how different dealers can sell the same thing for vastly different prices. That's why you need to know what a coin is actually worth before you buy it.
     
  4. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    yeah...but the thing is...they actually sell coins at these high prices....
    wow...good thing a lot of the members on here and other forums are good enough to give me a fair price and not try to rip me off
     
  5. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    In this case, however, it's not even the same thing/date being sold. The linked item is a scarcer 1889-O, not the common 1899-O that it was being compared to. And Stainless, an MS64 1899-O at $50 is neither a major steal nor a minor one.
     
  6. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS


    i think i see what your're talking about...but still the gold toned edges cant bring in $805 more than mine
     
  7. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    Don't assume that coins necessarily sell at the listed prices. Sometimes they do, but other times they sell for considerably less.
     
  8. vwap

    vwap New Member

    stainless, I think you should read what Mark said again, read the dates very carefully.

    You're comparing two coins with different dates and trying to make them equal. You linked an 1889-O and bought an 1899-O coin.
     
  9. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
    i just now caught that...
    thanks for letting me know
     
  10. vwap

    vwap New Member

    Pulling out the trusty Redbook:

    1889-O, MS-64: $850
    1899-O, MS-64: $ 75
     
  11. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    San Francisco, not New Orleans. You are still comparing apples to oranges.
     
  13. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    i dont get it...why is mine so low just because its from a different mint....
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Because they made 2m 1899-Sand 12m 1899-o. The same reason the 1926-S Lincoln MS-65 went fro $150,000 and the 1926- MS-65 goes for $44.

    FYI - Last years sales on Heritage for the 1899-O ms-64 went from $45 to $70 with about 2/3 going for exactly $45.
     
  15. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    The S has a mintage of 2,562,000, while the O has a mintage of 12,290,000. Where a lower mintage doesn't always make a coin more valuable, this case it does. Also, I guess there are less 1899 S Morgans than O in MS-64. A bunch of things play into effect here. Just two possibilities among many others.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  16. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Because value is based on supply and demand, and different mints have different total mintages in the same year, so the supply from one mint may be vastly different from the supply from another.

    18990 - 12,290,000
    1899S - 2,562,000

    Okay, Phoenix21 types faster than I do.
     
  17. vwap

    vwap New Member

    stainless --

    As many members here have undoubtedly learned (myself included), educate yourself before you start laying down money on coins.

    Buy a book (or few). The Redbook would be a good start.

    I'm sure there are a number of members here that could point you in the right direction regarding learning more about Morgans.

    Having looked at your "I want to start selling coins!" thread and also this one -- I suggest educating yourself before you really get burned with these "steals."
     
  18. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Holy Cow Stainless,

    You need to slow down just a bit my friend before you get yourself over your head seeking " bargains" that do not exsist !!! There is no free lunch, everything matters down to the slightest detail.

    BOOKS BOOKS BOOKS !!!!!!
     
  19. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    If you have to ask a question like that I'd suggest you not spend any more money on coins until you have a much better understanding of the rare coin market. Otherwise you are almost certain to get burned and badly.
     
  20. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll


    Agreed.

    Stainless, this time you got lucky. The $50 price is reasonable, since generic Morgans (which the 99-O is) in 64 have been going up with the rise in silver the past few months. $50 is fair for that coin, though no great bargin.
     
  21. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    okay....

    thanks for the advice...

    i promise not to buy any coins until i get more experienced with this...

    however...from one of my books...it said yo can only get experience by buying the coins and learning from them....

    shouldnt i do that to...

    whatever....
    ill listen to you guys....
    gonna buy another book...maybe coin collecting for dummies
     
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