Gassing coins -AT

The guarantee does not cover any toning premium. Those ASEs probably wholesale for only a nominal amount more than melt which is likely what PCGS would offer under its guarantee for them. Anyone who buys those is screwed.

 

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Call me a doubting Thomas, but us mere mortals don't have x-ray vision like superman. If you can see the cameo under there, then you are special to say the least.

 

I didn't comment on whether or not they SHOULD, I was just correcting the statement that they don't when they have and do assign it for toned coins.

Personally I think there should be a separate category for toned proofs as yes you could let it tone over a weak spot that would have cost it the designation

 

I'm not saying that there aren't toned proof coins with cameo/dcam designations. I'm saying that the toning must not be thick and obscure either the deeply mirrored fields or the frosted devices. It is all a matter of degree. The pictures make it look solid blue.

 

For me it's Cream Soda and Spicy Pork Rinds. Also good at keeping everyone awake on long road trips.

 

My comment had absolutely nothing to do with toning premiums, and unless you didn't read the post that I quoted, you should know that. So lets review. Michael K posted this:

My response was this:

He was claiming that at some point in the future, the TPGs would start considering any coin with toning as damaged, meaning they were problem coins. My response simply pointed out that any toned coins that were previously straight graded would now be problem coins and eligible for the grading guarantee. Furthermore, I never mentioned those ASEs.

 

I must have misread something.

 

You edited my quote. Here is what I really said.

I clearly stated that the color progression on that coin is not typical of a bag toned Morgan.

 

As an example:

 

I was agreeing with you and providing additional justification in case someone did not fully understand what you meant

 

Ok, glad we cleared that up.

 

Hey Lehigh, what CAUSES a 1893 proof half to tone like that? BTW, while I do not care for what has happened to my 1955 proof quarter, it still IS recognizable as a cameo. The nickel? Not s'much.

 

Long term storage in a sulfur laden source such as a tissue or envelope.

 

So basically, "double mint set" toning on steroids? I own quite a few individual "DMS" coins, and a few more sets. The chemistry of that paper usually causes purplish toning on silver.

 

I didn't know this. Are modern envelopes a source of sulfur transmission? Or is this only the case with older envelopes? I have a few 1950's era proof sets that I have still in their original envelopes. Wondering if I need to change that.

 

Modern envelopes are better, some better than others, and newer usually better than older. One thing EAC collectors do when they get an artificially reddened large cent or half cent is stick it in a manila 2x2 envelope in hopes of retoning it back to what it should be. It works, but it can take years.

 

By mentioning that you now know that the envelopes can cause toning, you have changed it from NT to AT.

And if that makes sense to you, well...I guess you understand toning!

 

@ddddd

 

At least on this one he had the good sense to LOWER the price of his Frankencoin Monster. How did he re-rotate it in the slab?

Are those four pilot holes around the coin looking messed with to anyone else?