Oddly Harnessed Biga

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  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I recently purchased this Cotta example of a Biga being drawn by Centaurs to add to my other oddly harnessed Bigas. It's a bit beat up, but I do not see many of these on the market:
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    M. AURELIUS COTTA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Head of Roma, COTA below, X behind
    REVERSE: Hercules holding club in biga of centaurs holding branches. M.AVRELI below, ROMA in ex
    Struck at Rome 139 BC
    4.29g, 16mm
    Aurelia 16, BMC.914, Craw.229/1
    ex. Pliego Numismatics

    Some of my other odd harness teams:
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    C RENIUS
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Helmeted head of Roma right, X behind
    REVERSE: Juno Capriotina in biga of goats right, C RENI below goats, ROMA in ex
    Struck at Rome 138 BC
    3.6g, 16mm
    Cr231/1, Syd 432
    L JULIUS CAESAR.jpg
    L JULIUS CAESAR ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS JULIA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: CAESAR Head of Mars left in crested helmet
    REVERSE: Venus Genettris with scepter, in biga drawn by two Cupids left, lyre in field, contolmark above, L IVLI L F in ex.
    Struck at Rome, 103BC
    3.85g, 17mm
    Cr320/1, Syd 593a.
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    M. VOLTEIUS M.F. ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS VOLTEIA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Head of Bacchus or Liber right, wreathed with ivy
    REVERSE: Ceres holding two torches, in biga of serpents right. Symbol in left field (double headed axe)
    Rome 76BC
    3.75g, 18mm
    Volteia 3; Cr385/3; Sear 314
    M VOLTEIUS M F.jpg
    M. VOLTEIUS M.F. ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS VOLTEIA
    AR Fouree Denarius
    OBVERSE: Laureate & helmeted bust of Attis right; shield behind
    REVERSE: Cybele seated right in biga drawn by two lions; OQ above
    Rome 78BC
    2.9g, 18mm
    Cr385/4; Syd 777, Volteia 4

    Please post your biga's being pulled along by odd creatures. Who knows? you may post one I will need to find for my chariot teams.
     
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  3. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    That's a fun and interesting collecting theme, I like it
    And your last addition is no exception, congrats

    I'm so sorry my bigas are just horses (very traditional)

    Q
     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Is the Cotta a fourree? It looks like it might be.

    I tried to pick up a couple of new additions for my Alternate Modes of Transportation set in the recent Aureo & Calico auction (a snake biga and a lion biga). I was completely smoked, not surprisingly. There were some amazing coins in that auction!

    Okie dokie :D

    Hippocamp biga:
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    ROMAN REPUBLIC, Moneyer Q. Crepereius M.f. Rocus

    69 BCE (revised from Crawford's 72 BCE)
    AR serrate denarius; 3.99 gm
    Obv: draped bust of Amphitrite seen from behind, with head turned r.; behind, sea anemone; horizontal I to right of right shoulder (only partly visible on this coin)
    Rev: Neptune in biga of hippocamps right, holding reins and brandishing trident; above, I and below, Q·CREPER·M·F / ROCVS
    Ref: Crawford 399/1b; Babelon Crepereia 1. Sydenham 796a. Rare.
    from HJB BBS 200, October 2016
    ex NAC 78 lot 1828, from the JD Collection of Roman Republican Coins


    Centaur biga:

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    EGYPT, Alexandria. Domitian

    RY 14 (CE 94/5)
    Æ drachm, 36 mm, 25.42 gm
    Obv: Laureate head right
    Rev: The Emperor driving biga of centaurs right., raising hand and holding scepter and reins; in exergue, L IΔ
    Ref: Dattari-Savio Pl. 17, 453 (this coin); Geissen 406 (this coin cited); RPC 2704 (this coin cited)
    ex Dattari collection (Giovanni Dattari, 1858-1923)

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    ROMAN REPUBLIC, M. Aurelius Cotta

    139 BCE
    AR Denarius, 20 mm, ? gm (can't find my scale right at the moment :D)
    Obv: helmeted head of Roma right; X (mark of value) behind; COTA before; dotted border
    Rev: Hercules carrying a club, driving biga of centaurs right; centaurs each carrying a branch; M·AVRELI (AVR is ligate); in exergue, ROMA; line border
    Ref: Crawford 229/1b; Sydenham 429; Aurelia 16
    formerly slabbed, NGC bulk submission holder, "VF"

    Cupid biga (one of my favorite coins):

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    Roman Republic
    moneyer L. Julius L. f. Caesar, 103 BC

    AR denarius, 17mm, 3.9 gm
    Obv: Helmeted head of Mars left; CAESAR; ・C (retrograde)
    Rev: Venus Genetrix in chariot left, drawn by two Cupids; lyre to left; ・C (retrograde) above
    Ref: Crawford 320/1
    ex RBW Collection

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    Goat biga:

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    Roman Republic fourée mule denarius
    L. Antestius Gragulus, 136 BCE, and C. Renius, 138 BCE

    ancient forgery, 3.18 gm
    Obv: Roma helmeted head right, * below chin, GRAG behind
    Rev: Juno Caprotina in a biga of goats, C・RENI below, ROMA in exergue
    Ref: Obverse S.115, Cr.238/1, Syd.451, RSC Antestia 9; Reverse S.108, Cr.231/1, Syd.432, RSc Renia 1

    Hippocamp quadriga:

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    PHOENICIA, Berytos
    1st century BCE
    Æ19.5, 5.9 gm
    Obv: Turreted head of Tyche right
    Rev: Poseidon standing left in quadriga drawn by four hippocamps Ref: SNG Copenhagen 83

    Winged serpent bigas:

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    EGYPT, Alexandria. Antoninus Pius
    year 14, CE 150/1
    AE drachm, 34 mm, 28.8 gm
    Obv: Laureate bust of Antoninus Pius left
    Rev: Triptolemos driving biga of winged serpents right; L IΔ above
    Ref: Emmett 1683.14

    This one is hard to make out, but that's Triptolemos sitting on a wheelchair-ish biga drawn by serpents:
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    ATTICA, Athens. Eleusis mint
    Eleusinian festival coinage
    340-335 BC
    AE16
    Obv: Triptolemos, seated left in a winged chariot drawn by two snakes
    Rev: Pig standing right on mystic staff, bucranium below
    Ref: SNG Cop 415
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I don't believe it is. The green you see in the image is from the green clay I use to prop the coins for photography.
     
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  6. Puckles

    Puckles Cat Whisperer

    At least you've got bigas @Cucumbor. I've just got two dudes on horses!

    Roman Republic Denarius L. Cupiennius 147 BC Castor and Pollux Dioscuri Rev TM 783752413.jpg

    L. Cupennius Castor and Pollux Dioscuri 147 BC

    Love the examples pictured here @Bing and @TIF
     
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  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Wow great stuff @TIF - I'm super impressed!
     
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  8. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    WoWiE @Bing! Just humbled by your and @TIF's bigga collection. All of those are on my hit list...but not acquired yet. I did recently pick up a bigga in the last @Savoca auction that is pretty saweet!
    CollageMaker Plus_2018111811484346.png Decimius Flavus. 150 BC. AR Denarius (17.8mm, 3.46 g, 5h). Rome mint. Helmeted head of Roma right; X (mark of value) to left / Diana Lucifera driving galloping biga right, holding reins and whip; FLAVS below, ROMA in partial tablet in exergue. Crawford 207/1;
     
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  9. benhur767

    benhur767 Sapere aude

    @Bing Wow, I LOVE these!
     
  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    Man, I wish I had a weird biga, that is still on the list. That centaur big is awesome though @Bing !
     
  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Fun thread!!!

    I never let an opportunity pass to show my LION QUADRIGA! I'll have to admit, though, in this thread with many mythological beasts pulling chariots, lions seem downright ordinary.

    Domna MATER AVGG Cybele Lion Quadriga Denarius A.jpg
    Julia Domna, AD 193-217.
    Roman AR denarius, 3.30 g, 19 mm, 6 h.
    Rome, 21st emission, AD 205.
    Obv: IVLIA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
    Rev: MATER AVGG, Julia Domna, as Cybele, seated left in quadriga of lions and holding branch in her right hand.
    Refs: RIC 562; BMCRE 48; Cohen/RSC 117; RCV 6592; Hill 759; CRE 354.
     
  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Cool stuff. :)

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    As soon as I saw this one, I knew we were gonna see the TIF GIF again! :hilarious:

    (Which is OK- some of those never get old.)
     
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  13. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    My "traditional" bigas :

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    L. Flaminius Chilo


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    L. Procilius L.F.

    Q
     
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  14. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Sasly, I do not have any bigas, trigas, nor quadrigas. :(
     
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  15. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member


    You're chariotly challenged :D

    Q
     
  16. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    My special forces bigati. We start with the usual goats of
    renia 1, as others have shown:
    renia1-cng102b-sm.jpg

    Next are a couple of stags from an anonymous issuer (Crawford 422):
    anonstags-hjb65-sm.jpg


    And last, but my no means least, a biga of elephants (Caecilius 14):
    caecilius01-mr100b-sm.jpg

    Okay, nothing from fantasy, but not your everyday bigati either.
     
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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    STAGS:
    RR Allius Bala 92 BCE AR Den Diana Biga Stags Sear 221 Craw336-1 scarce.jpg
    RR Allius Bala 92 BCE AR Den Diana Biga Stags Sear 221 Craw336-1 scarce


    GOATS:

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    RR C Renius AR Denarius 18mm 3.8g Roma 138 BC Helmeted hd Roma r X - C RENI ROMA Juno driving biga goats r whip reins scepter Cr 231-1


    Oh, and you will like THIS on celebrating Marius' victories...
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    RR Lucilius Rufus 101 BCE Ar Den Roma Biga Marius Victories S 202 Cr 324-1
     
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  18. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Thats pretty neat
     
  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Best I can do on this theme is a lion quadriga, but I’m afraid it’s a tad modern, being only 95 years old.

    That’ll have to do, until I get my first ancient with “unusual critter propulsion”.

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  20. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    My guess is that the Romans had a manual "Harnessing for Dummies", which covered a wide range of creatures, from centaurs, to horses, to mules, to wart hogs....
     
  21. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    The one example that I have readily available is a chariot drawn by two serpents, on the reverse, to the right of the owl, of this new style tetradrachm of Athens.

    Don't ask me about the harnessing.

    16.91 grams

    D-Camera Athens new style tetradrachm, 113-112 BC 16.91 grms,,  8-23-20.jpg
     
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