That's what I call a feedback score

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by DJCoinz, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    I'm very glad to hear it.

    Are you done under your present ID, or are you done done?
     
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  3. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    I am also glad you are done, you are giving good sellers a bad name!
     
  4. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    I am sure I have p'd spme folks off by being vocal on my opinions, I'll just deal with it if it happens. I'm pretty confidant my record stands for itself.
     
  5. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    The feedback link says "Not a registered user". That might have happened since you posted your comment.

    I wonder why it "members who left a negative 4" when there are 5 negatives. Anyway, I'm wondering also what is the motivation? Practical joke?

    Edited: Grudge makes sense, but against 4 different sellers?
     
  6. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    4 "MEMBERS" left 5 negative feedbacks - i.e. one member (1952yorky) left 2 negatives.
     
  7. thebigandy

    thebigandy Member

    Who has the highest feedback ever?
     
  8. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    I think some of the Power Sellers are in the 100,000+ range, but the largest I recall seeing for a seller of coins was in the 25K area.
     
  9. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Anyone notice not a single person has stood up in Nathan's defense? You'd think that kind of consensus would cause him to rethink his position... all he'd have to do is admit he was wrong and apologize and people would drop it.

    Anywho I've had 0 feedback buyers before. Haven't had a problem with them, except for one... I was selling a DVD where he bid on the exact same DVD twice, and decided to only pay for the one he won from someone else at a cheaper price than the one he won from me. He claimed he didn't realize he still had the winning bid on mine. He asked me to remove the neg feedback I left him... to which I replied I would only do that if he paid what he bid on the item. I'm pretty firm... don't like to seem like an ***hole but I firmly believe that ignorance is no excuse for not following the rules. If I get a ticket for speeding no cop is going to let me off just because I claim I didn't know what the speed limit was.

    (That bidder was NARU'd not too long after. To his credit he didn't retaliate with neg feedback on me, though he still asserted that his lack of understanding of the rules was a legitimate excuse in his rebuttal. Sorry, not knowing or understanding the rules doesn't exempt you from the consequences of not following them.)

    All the other 0's who've won my stuff were just honest eBay newbies who paid, no problem, and the pos feedback I left them was the first they got. You have to start somewhere after all.

    I automatically block anyone with a feeback rating of less than 0 from bidding on any of my auctions. Not worth the hassle; people only get into the negative by failure to follow very simple rules, whether it be intentionally or through negligence.
     
  10. cesariojpn

    cesariojpn Coin Hoarder

  11. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Well, the highest rated seller with a name that IDs him as dealing in coins seems to be numismaticbureau, with a rating above 65,000.

    He seems to specialize in "unsearched" lots, and among his 162 negs are several stating that multiple lots were exactly the same. He also had 552 neutrals, and 385 "mutually withdrawn".

    I wouldn't dream of buying from someone with a 98.4 rating, no matter how many positives he had!
     
  12. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Vettes way up there as well, 60-70K something I think, believe it or not I bought 2 coins from them last night, the red felt background guys I normally ignore, but the coins were legit
     
  13. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    If you're talking about vette1986, I've bought from him a few times and found all the coins were 1 to 2 grades lower than what he had stated. I decided not to buy from him any more. I've posted some of his coins here for opinions and have been straightened out each time.

    The most annoying thing is his pictures are almost always out of focus, usually at the bottom where the date is. The reverse is the same. You would think that some who does so much business on ebay would get it right. So, I have come to believe he's doing it on purpose.

    Bruce
     
  14. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Believe me, he's got it right for his purposes, or he wouldn't keep doing it.
     
  15. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    What's so bad about 98.4%? That means only 16 out of every 1000 customers were unsatisfied... most businesses would be ecstatic to have that level of customer satisfaction. It's unrealistic to believe that any company selling above a given volume can possibly make everyone happy.

    Mutually withdrawn can just be customers whining about whatever or not understanding the proper procedures. I work retail and have to refund several purchases a day just because a customer woke up one day and decided they didn't like what they bought. A lot of those mutually withdrawn feedbacks may have just been buyer's remorse.

    The thing with unsearched lots is, you have no idea precisely what you're going to get, so complaining you didn't get quite what you expected is a little silly. As long as you get what was described, you can't complain you didn't get something the listing didn't specify you would. Not that stops some people from complaining anyway apparently...

    Don't just lookat how many negatives someone gets. Read the negatives and see if they're actually legitimate complaints.
     
  16. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    No! That means 16 out of every 1000 buyers had the mauxy to say that they were dissatisfied. It is probably more like 160 out of every 1000 were dissatisfied. However, I will say that people buying unsearched coins have expectations way beyond anything practical.

    Now that I whole heartedly agree with
     
  17. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Well I'm sure a lot of people were unsatisfied and didn't bother to say anything, but that's no proof that they were justly so. After all people often have unrealistic expectations about unsearched lots. It should be pretty obvious that people selling such things have to be selling them for more than they're worth, at least on an average, or they couldn't possibly make a profit doing it. I'm sure anyone selling large quantities of these get all kinds of complaints from people expecting something truly valuable that's worth more than what they paid. You may as well complain to a casino that you played a slot machine for an hour and didn't win anything. You might get lucky on ocassion but it's silly to expect that the house isn't going to come out on top in the long run, else they wouldn't still be in business.
     
  18. umtrr-author

    umtrr-author Thalia and Kieran's Dad

    AZ Jack, you can clearly post in your auctions that bids will not be accepted from any user who has zero or negative feedback. I've seen this plenty of times. I've even seen (although not so much any more) listings that require a bidder to have at least a +5 or +10 to bid without contacting the seller first. If not the bid is cancelled.

    Add a "no zeroes" policy and then do it.

    Yes, I know that everyone started with zero at one point...
     
  19. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    A better portrayal of satisfaction is the star system. I know most dont use it, and alot hate it, but if you really make an impact either way great or poor, it gets used by the buyer. Look at a sellers 1st star, accuracy of description, and you will get a better idea than just a percentage figure.

    With fear of retailatory feedback, buyers are hesitant to neg. Buyers are incognito when checking the stars and tend to be more honest. You can leave a pos and only 1 star in the columns......after a cpl hundred star feedbacks, a trend develops that is generaly more acurate.

    YES, buyers of unsearched lots are usually USUALLY newbies or the uneducated.
     
  20. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    I have decided not to worry about it. But, yeah, I have seen that as well. Thanks !! ( You are not able to eliminate zero feedback bidders, but you can cancel the bid after it has been placed ), only thing you can block are bidders with a certain amount of negs or those with non payment strikes.

    I usually only run a cpl auctions, relying more on store inventory sales, therfore I am unable to cancel. If they buy, I will sell .
     
  21. DJCoinz

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