A significant 1992 P DDOR candidate?? Nah can't be!?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by XanthenX, Nov 3, 2018.

  1. XanthenX

    XanthenX Active Member

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    Both obverse and reverse show split serifs with doubling reaching the same height as the duplicated ones. Ignore the warped plating shadows and split plate doubling.
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    You can't.
    That's the best indication of a Worn Die Strike.
     
  4. XanthenX

    XanthenX Active Member

    Shouldn't a later die state "bleed out", in varied amounts, from all of the edges of the individual lettering? Whenever I first started studying Lincoln Cents, approximately one year ago, my first big disappointment and hands on in the field experience, a 1983 P business strike cent that was a VLDS specimen.
    I am certain that on that particular coin the letters reminded me of a candle holder's overflow onto a plate but more uniform. This added thickness but not split serifs, and also the added bulk to the characters were, in every single letter, statically sloping in a downward trajectory.

    Not in disagreement with your analysis, just attempting to understand how many different appearances machine doubling borne of a worn later staged die can take on.

    When I look at the characters themselves, there are split serifs and an additional duplicate body of the original design feature, with an identical elevation to the parent character? It never ceases to amaze me how stumped I still truly am on this.
     
  5. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    think of all the dies being used, and that they cannot all wear exactly the same...
     
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  6. SlipperySocks

    SlipperySocks Well-Known Member

    This type is still hard for me too. I call it Ghost Doubling and it always seems to drift toward the rim like on your LIBERTY and AMERICA. I have never heard an explanation that truly satisfied me but I feel it is a variation that occurs during the strike as the metal flows outward toward the rim. It is not the mechanical doubling per se where it Impacts the raised device but it's more like a shadow of the lettering.
     
  7. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Could someone place arrow indicators as to what we are looking at? I am completely lost. Thanks
     
  8. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    look at the small line directly above some of the letters in USoA and below letters of "one cent" and monument, thats all some form of MD and/or DDD...
     
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  9. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Got it! Thanks
     
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