Die chip that would eventually could have been a cud.

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by MeowtheKitty, Nov 3, 2018.

  1. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    Meow found a very small yet unusual die chip in this North Dakota quarter. Is this maybe how cuds start? Meow has not ever seen such a high little die chip bump like this one, especially in a open field. WIN_20181103_04_22_17_Pro.jpg WIN_20181103_04_22_34_Pro.jpg WIN_20181103_04_23_04_Pro.jpg
     
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  3. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    While unusual, it is unlikely to have progressed into a much larger cud . . . a rather small one connected to the nearby rim, yes, but not a large one. The reason? Because it is a nearly spherical indentation in the die, lacking any sharp corners. Without a significant stress concentration in the die, it is unlikely that cracks will propagate toward interior features.

    Still, this is an interesting coin.
     
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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I don't see any die cracks that involve the rim. Although it is a recess in the die (die chip) it may or may not involve the rim with future strikes.
     
  5. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Looks like a retained strike-through .....................
     
  6. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    The OP mentioned that the bump is high (tall in my mind), which I think precludes it being a strike thru.
     
  7. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    So it would not have grown to the rim and turn into a cud, you guys think? It just really caught Meow's eye, as it is a fairly high bump in an area Meow has never seen have die issues.
     
  8. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    Meow could not say how high. But is seems much higher than the motto.
     
  9. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    Oh, and also notice the reflection of the field. It has also affected the smooth flow of the natural curved reflection. Meow has seen many quarters that have this where the mintmark is.
     
  10. Legoman1

    Legoman1 Active Member

    Since the "cud" is in such an unusual location it could be damage. A retained strike through would look somewhat different.
     
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  11. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    A "cud" involves the rim, this bump or die chip doesn't.
    http://cuds-on-coins.com/cuds/
     
  12. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    Meow was told by some few folks in another forum, that cuds must involve the rim of the coin. Meow was just thinking that this damage might have grown into that. But anyway its not PMD because its a bump, and pretty high bump at that.
     
  13. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    You beat Meow to it! Meow's paws where just not fast enough to beat your reply!
     
  14. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I think it's a late meow die meow that affected the meow meow :bucktooth:
     
  15. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Doug said Tommy ( and others ) should not go there because Tommy is a nice Tommy and does not want to be a bad or rude Tommy.
     
  16. EatYourWheatPennies

    EatYourWheatPennies Active Member

    Please stop saying meow after everything
     
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  17. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Could be a die dent too ..
     
  18. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    You can't ask a cat not to meow.. That's like asking Niagra to stop falling!
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  19. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    Wondering if this is a struck through glob of metal.
     
  20. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Cuds are breaks in dies which produce raised features above those of a normal coin, whether at the rim or not. Cuds at the rim are called rim cuds, and cuds not connected to the rim are called interior cuds.
     
  21. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    OK. But at another forum they corrected Meow's incorrect use of the term cud, when describing a coin that did not affect the rim. So cuds can appear any where it seems. Anyway, Meow wanted to share it since it was so unique; where it was, and how its shaped.
     
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