Can either of these Morgans make a 65?

I've seen bagger 65s

 

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I don't think the 1889 would, the large hit under Liberty's eye would preclude it. Both TPG's have entered into a very conservative grading cycle right now, but I still don't think this one would do better than a 64 during any of the past grading cycles.

The 1882 looks like it would have a shot. How is the luster on it? It looks to be a bit flat in the images, but if it's pretty decent in hand, I think it could possibly go 65, it looks clean enough to me.

 

The 1889 looks PL, especially the reverse, but it doesn’t strike me as a high grade example (lack of luster, marks...) 63/64?

I like the 1882 more (my favorite year for Morgans anyways) but I doubt it’ll go higher than 64 (weak strike, marks on Liberty’s cheek...) Nice colors though.

 

The 1882 I think has a chance. All the others just have too many hits in the prime focal areas.

 

No for both. 63PL or 64PL for the 1889. The 82 looks to have lots of small and light marks on the cheek, no large patch of "creamy" frost, so 63-64 on that one as well, assuming a TPG doesn't decide there's an issue with the color.

 

Like the others, I see the 1889 as a 64 max due to the hits being in a focal area.

The 1882 has a chance-to me it even looks less baggy than some 66s- but as @jtlee321 mentioned, the luster is key. If the coin lacks booming luster, then it would most likely also max out at 64.

 

I think your looking at 64's on them.

 

I don't think either will make 65...just my opinion. First one looks like a 63 and the second one has a flat strike and a bit too many marks - 64 IMO.

 

The 82 may come close but likely a 64. No on the 89

 

I hope they are better in person, by the photos I would grade both as 63, average bag morgans, with the first being lesser than the second. Jim

 

MS63 possibly PL and MS64.

 

Hey a Morgan pro just confirmed my grades... I am soooo proud

 

I’d say 63 or 64 on either one. I simply can’t judge PL from a picture.

 

Beautiful Morgans! The '89 is OK at MS-36 but the '82, by photo rendering, is AU-58.
Wear behind the eye, the hair behind the eye, above the ear, and the cheek.

 

The 82 is close, but it doesn’t quite make it to 65 for me.

 

89 went 63, 82 went 64

 

Surprised you didn't get PL on the 89.

 

I thought it looked like it had a decent shot as well.

 

I think 63 maybe pl on the 89. And 64 on the 82

 

ditto