Julia Domna Drachm of Cappadocia

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  1. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Seeing as the reverse of this Cappadocian drachm is not Mount Argaeus, I thought it'd be interesting enough to share here. It's a little scrappy, but I like the portrait, and that some of the letterforms stood out to me as unusual (the Δ in ΔOMNA and the Єs on the reverse). I haven't seen very many of this reverse with Aphrodite around, and they appear to have only been struck for Domna in Severus's 5th year.

    Feel free to share any of your Cappadocian provincials.

    Julia Domna - Drachm Cappadocia Aphrodite 2877.jpg
    JULIA DOMNA
    AR Drachm. 2.42g, 17.1mm. CAPPADOCIA, Caesarea-Eusebia, RY 5 of Severus = AD 197/8. Sydenham 440. O: [IO]VΛIA ΔOMNA [CЄ], draped bust right. R: [MHTPOΠOΛ KA]ICAPIA, Aphrodite standing right, holding apple; ЄT – Є in fields.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Very nice, still would like a Domna Drachm eventually.
     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    The fabric and style have a very Alexandrian look. I hadn't seen the type before. Cool coin :).
     
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  5. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Wonderful portrait on this one. She looks indomitable!
     
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  6. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    That's an intersting portrait of Domna. She looks older than what one would expect in 197 though.

    Through time I've had two Mount Argaeus coins, the Tranquillina only remains in my collection. The Plautilla is now in a specialized Severan collection in Paris (note the skillful portrait of Plautilla, one of the best ones I've ever encountered)

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    Plautilla, Provincial - Caesaraea drachm Cappadocia, Caesaraea - Eusebia), AD 205.
    ΦΟΥΛΟΥΙ ΠΛΑΥ ΑΥ, draped bust right
    ΜΗΤΡΟ ΚΑΙCΑ, Agalma of Mt. Argaeus with star. In ex., CΤΙΓ : regnal year 13 of Sept. Severus, 205 AD
    2.69 g, 19mm
    Ref : Sydenham -; SNG Copenhagen -; Sear 2775v.
    Sydenham-Malloy, p. 152, no. 496b
    cf. Lanz auction # 117/956
    thanks to Curtis Clay for additionnal information


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    Tranquillina, Drachm - * Cappadocia, Caesarea- Eusebia, AD 241-244
    Tranquillina, Augusta, AR Drachm - Dated Regnal year 4 of Gordian III (AD 240/1)
    CABINIA TPANKVΛΛINA AV Draped bust right, wearing stephane
    MHTPO KAICA B N E Mount Argaeus ЄT Δ (date) in exergue
    2.72 grams - 18 mm
    Ref : Bland, Last # 58, Sydenham, Caesarea Supp # 617a
    Ex CNG e-auction 354, #352
    Ex Steve P. collection

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  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Nice coins! The Cappadocian drachm I assume was tariffed at the rate of 1 denarius to 1 drachm.
     
  8. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    That's a very nice drachm with an expressive portrait – I like it a lot! Here are some of my Cappadocians, only one of which has a Mount Argaios reverse.

    Not yet a provincial, but minted by Ariobarzanes Philorhomaios ("Friend of the Romans", r. 95–63/62 BC), under whose rule Cappadocia became a de facto Roman protectorate:

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    Ariobarzanes I. Philorhomaios, Kingdom of Cappadocia, AR drachm, 66/65 BC, Eusebeia mint. Obv: Diademed head right. Rev. BAΣIΛEΩΣ APIOBAPZANOY ΦIΛOPΩMAIOY, Athena standing left, holding shield, spear and Nike; to left monogram, Λ in exergue (off flan). 17mm, 4.3g. Ref: Simonetta 1977, no. 43.

    This is almost a provincial – minted for Archelaus, the last king of Cappadocia (r. 36 BC –17 AD). His bronzes are relatively rare (only two on acsearch, none currently on the market, seven examples listed in RPC), which makes it all the better luck that I found this in a pick bin for $10. The dealer hadn't identified it.

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    Archelaus, Kingdom of Cappadocia, Æ18, 24/23 BC (?), Eusebeia mint. Obv: Head Dionysos right, wearing ivy wreath. Rev: EVΣΕ – ΒΕΙΑΣ, eagle over Mount Argaios. 18mm, 5.02g. Ref: RPC I, 3610.

    Finally, a proper provincial minted for Hadrian:

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    Caesarea, province Cappadocia, Roman Empire (under Hadrian), AR hemidrachm, 120/121 AD. Obv: AVTO KAIC TPAI AΔPIANOC CЄBACT, laureate head right, with slight drapery. Rev: ЄT Δ, club of Hercules facing downward. 14mm, 1.39g. Ref: Metcalf 85; Sydenham 257.
     
  9. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    I love Cappadocian silver, you got a nice one there. Congrats!
     
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  10. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    What an excellent selection, @Orielensis! I like all three, but especially that bronze... what a fantastic pick bin find.

    Lovely, @Cucumbor. I picked up an ex x6 Cappadocian provincial as well! "Wanna see?" :)

    Nerva - x6 Didrachm Cappadocia Club 2591.jpg NERVA
    AR Didrachm. 6.69g, 22.1mm. Metcalf, Caesarea 45. Sydenham, Caesarea 153. CAPPADOCIA, Caesaraea-Eusebia, AD 96-98. O: AYTOKPAT NЄPOYAC KAICAP CЄBACTOC, laureate head right. R: YΠATOY TЄTAPTOY, Club set on ground.
    Ex stevex6 Collection
     
  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    That’s my understanding from some general reading. I also recall reading that, at the same time, these eastern Provincial drachmas tended to have a lower silver fineness that was not compensated for.
     
  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    You know as much about these as I do. I'm not sure how I ended up with two of these. Things like that happen when you have too many coins. As of today, I have sold/given the same number of coins that I have bought this year. I wonder if I will be able to stay on that number through the end of the year.
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  13. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Amazing coins... no silver from me (there rarely is..) but I recently picked up a Hadrian from Cappadocia that I really like.
    It's a modest coin but one that I prize.

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    Cappadocia, Tyana, Hadrian, AD 117-138, AE 24mm (9.58gm), dated year 20 (=AD 136/7). O: AYTO KAIC TPAI AΔPIANOC CEBACTOC. Bare head right. R: TYANEΩN TΩN Π P IEP ACY AYT. City-goddess seated left on rocks, holding ears of grain and grapes; beneath, river god swimming left; across field, ET-K. SNG Aulock 6538; SNG Cop. 316; RPC 2955.
     
  14. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    @Clavdivs, this might be a modest coin, but, at least in my eyes, one with a fantastic portrait, especially for a provincial. Just look at how finely the nose is executed, and how Hadrian's brow and slightly turned down lips give him a pensive, ruminant expression very much fitting this emperor's character. The bit of corrosion doesn't destroy the coin's expressiveness, and maybe even enhances it. I can see and and understand why you prize it.
     
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  15. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    My guess is one or both were offered at a price too good to ignore. :D

    There are a few Cappadocian provincials that are pretty high on my want list. I was prepared to give up an arm for this Domna didrachm that the sold earlier this year that shows Septimius and the boys up on the mountain, but as it turned out, a leg and possibly more was also required... I didn't stick around to find out. :grumpy:

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  16. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Thank you for your kind words @Orielensis. To me (and to many I am sure) the beauty in these coins is not always in their perfection but in their individuality... in many cases this is not limited to their manufacture, it can be enhanced by their circulation amongst our ancient ancestors. Having a coin "as struck.. and struck well" is amazing in itself but equally (in my mind) holding in your hand a coin that has purchased sustenance for families, been prized, been earned through work, been saved, or been lost adds to the history that we all love.
     
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  17. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    This one is part of my 12 Caesar set (silver)

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    randygeki Coin Collector

  19. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    That's a cool drachm @zumbly , nice portrait of JD.

    The only provincial I have from that area is the "vanilla" Mt. Argaeus reverse on an Elagablus.

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    But hey, I like vanilla.
     
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  20. Aleph

    Aleph Well-Known Member

    Great coins! I really like seeing the plautilla. Plautilla is very rare from Caesarea for some reason. I only got mine because is was misattributed.
     
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