Nero as Apollo

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  1. Gary R. Wilson

    Gary R. Wilson ODERINT, DUM METUANT — CALIGULA

    Here's my latest acquisition. Still trying to replace the coin types I had in my previous collection. Please feel free to post your Apollo coins. Nero. A.D. 54-68. AE as (23.01 mm, 6.87 g, 5 h).jpg
    Ruler: Nero (Augustus)
    Coin: VF Bronze AS
    NERO CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG GERMANIC - Radiate head of Nero right
    PONTIF MAX TR POT IMP P P - Nero, as Apollo Citharoedus, advancing right in billowing robes, playing lyre; mark of value I in ex.
    Exergue:
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    Mint: Rome (64 AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 6.87g / 23.01mm / 5 h
    References:
    • RIC 211
    • BMCRE 256.
    • WCN 272
    • Sear 1978
    Provenances:
    • The D. Thomas Collection
    • Agora Auctions
    Acquisition/Sale: Agora Auctions Internet Numismatic Sale #77 #087 $0.00 10/18
     
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  3. roman99

    roman99 Well-Known Member

    Nice touch with the lyre on the reverse, issued the same year Nero supposedly "Played the lyre while Rome burned."
     
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  4. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Are you compelled more to replace ones you had or add 'new' interesting types?

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    Seleucus III
    Mint: Antioch
    AR Tetradrachm
    226 to 223 BC
    Obvs: Diademed head of Seleucus III r., with long sideburn, dotted border.
    Revs: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ on r., ΣΕΛΕΥΚΟΥ on l., Apollo, slight drapery on r. thigh, seated l. on omphalos, testing arrow and resting l. hand on grounded bow. Control marks in outer left and right fields
    25mm, 16.82g
    Ref: SC 921.1
    Note: Graffiti A inscribed in left field below control.

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    Anonymous under Maximinus II
    305 to 313 AD
    Antioch mint
    Obvs: GENIO CIVITATIS, Draped veiled and turreted bust right of Tyche of Antioch.
    Revs: APOLLONI SANCTO, Apollo standing left holding lyre and patera. B in right field, SMA in ex.
    AE 16mm, 2.02g
    Ref: Vagi 2956; Van Heesch 4; McAlee 172
     
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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I assume you know that your Anonymous Apollo is quite a special type. Mine is the ordinary one with the swimmer on the obverse.
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  6. Gary R. Wilson

    Gary R. Wilson ODERINT, DUM METUANT — CALIGULA

     
  7. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Nero and his lyre, people went crazy after his hours long recitals:

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  8. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Nice pick up Gary, The only Apollo in my collection is this Sestertius of AP. AA_Ant_Pius.jpg
     
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  9. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Yes. Besides the one sold at Roma and the one in the current CNG sale I never seen them offered. I am in the process of researching and tying in all the types such as your nice example. I have been finding some interesting results which I plan to share.
     
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  10. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    Pretty coins, I can hear the tunes!: here is an Apollo very chill resting his elbow on the tripod:
    Bronze AE 20, references: RPC I 4056, SNG Levante 1324, SNG PfPS 925, SNG Hunterian 2362; SNG BnF -, SNGvA -, BMC Lycaonia -, Lindgren -; condition: F, green patina, light marks and corrosion, mint: Mopsus (Yakapinar, Turkey), weight: 4.801g, maximum diameter: 19.5mm, die axis: 0o, date struck: time of Claudius, 50 - 51 A.D.; obverse turreted and veiled bust of Tyche right; reverse MOΨEATΩN THΣ IEPAΣ KAI AYTONOMOY, Apollo standing left, laurel branch in right hand, resting left elbow on tripod lebes behind, HIP (year 118) upper right; additional comments: from the Butte College Foundation, ex Lindgren; rare
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    Another unusual bronze: Checking his arrow upload_2018-10-9_14-20-33.png
     
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  11. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    i dig that one Gary!...very kool~!..i want one!.. my only lyre coin to date is of Antiochus ll and i got it out of spite for loosing out on one like @Andres2, along with this SPQR (and i believe yours is a dupondius:))Nero Nero SPQR   Antiocus ll lyre apollo 001.JPG Nero SPQR   Antiocus ll lyre apollo 002.JPG
     
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  12. Gary R. Wilson

    Gary R. Wilson ODERINT, DUM METUANT — CALIGULA

    Nice coins. By the way, there is a "Nero playing the lyre" in the current CNG auction which closes tomorrow. And concerning this denomination, according to Wildwinds and the seller on Agora Auctions, this is an AS, even though Nero is radiate. The mark of value in the exergue, 1, specifies it as an AS.
     
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  13. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    welp now that's polly correct then and i stand corrected... i have a dupondius that @dougsmit ided for me by having the mark there also.. Nero ASSES 002.JPG Nero ASSES 004.JPG
     
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  14. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    @Gary R. Wilson, I like they lyrist's pose on your coin.

    @dougsmit yours may be the "ordinary" issue but it has great eye appeal.

    @Andres2, what a grand flourish of Apollo's plucking arm. He must've been quite the showman :D.

    Wow! What a super coin :)

    Yours has "II" in exergue which denotes dupondius.

    Here's an Apollo reverse I'm very fond of:

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    TROAS, Alexandria. Trebonianus Gallus
    CE 251-253
    AE 21 mm, 4.76 gm
    Obv: IMP VIB TREB GALVS AV; laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev: COL AV / TROA; Apollo, head right and holding kithara, seated facing on griffin springing right, head left
    Ref: RPC IX 407; Bellinger A403
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/an-interesting-depiction-of-apollo.290702/
     
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  15. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    I dared not clean this coin which has Nero as Apollo on obverse, as well as a laurel branch on reverse. RPC 4301. Nero(Apollo)  RPC4301.JPG NerAplaurel  Branch.jpg
     
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  16. Gary R. Wilson

    Gary R. Wilson ODERINT, DUM METUANT — CALIGULA

    Why don't you want to clean it? Nice coin as is but cleaning might reveal more detail.
     
  17. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Shall I start with soaking the coin in distilled water, or rub it with the adequate brush. ?
     
  18. Gary R. Wilson

    Gary R. Wilson ODERINT, DUM METUANT — CALIGULA

    I'd start with distilled water. It might take a long soak. Then, yes I would use a toothbrush and see what happens. If that proves inadequate then I would try olive oil. Either way, I'd be real patient with it.
     
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  19. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

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  20. Gary R. Wilson

    Gary R. Wilson ODERINT, DUM METUANT — CALIGULA

    You don't want to get rid of the dirt on the obverse? I don't think it is encrustation. If he uses distilled water or olive oil, he won't harm the coin.
     
  21. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    That's a great looking Apollog @Gary R. Wilson ! Looks like he is really getting into a killer lyre solo. Kind of looks like Jimmy Page lighting up that double neck he used to play!

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    Here is a ugly Thracian provincial of Caracalla, but I like the Apollo reverse.

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