Can someone tell me if this Walking Liberty has been cleaned please?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Justawesome, Oct 7, 2018.

  1. Justawesome

    Justawesome Active Member

    Maybe it's just Proof or maybe BU/AU but if it has been cleaned can you ell me how you can be sure?

    I hve been watching all the videos i can on every coin related topic but this one i have failed to master.

    Thank you so much in advance What a great hobby AND community here. 20181007_150120_001  (1940 C).jpg

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    Many many thank!
     
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  3. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    looks like it may have been put to a buffing wheel to make it shine, but that big
    "X" scratched on both sides makes it damaged and only worth melt value...
     
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  4. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    It's been polished and an X is carved on both sides.
    If it's for sale, stay away.
    It's only worth melt.
     
  5. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    A coin with that much wear and age should have some tarnish on it.
    it is just to clean in its designs features.
     
  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Over time, this will be easy to understand. Your coin is damaged. All of the luster is gone. There is no way to know for sure how it was cleaned.
    Your coin is not a proof. This first image is a proof. The second image is a normal business strike.

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  7. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    The scratch kills it. And the graininess looks like a result of harsh cleaning.
     
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  8. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Certainly is an altered surface. My guess is that it was altered in an effort to conceal the large "X" scratched into the surface. This coin would be a melt value hole filler at best..... The book below written by a forum member here includes easy to understand ways to evaluate altered coin surfaces. With so many folks trying to scam a hobbyist out of their hard earned monies these days, educating yourself on altered surfaces is an invaluable tool when coin shopping.
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  9. APX78

    APX78 Well-Known Member

    It appears cleaned to me.
    Look under magnification for scratches.
     
  10. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    Someone around here once said “if you have to ask if a coin is cleaned, it’s cleaned.”

    While not always the case, I find it to be pretty on-point most of the time.

    In this case the coin is blatantly cleaned but that goes for the much less obvious ones as well.
     
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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There used to be some dealers, might still be some, who when they would run across a coin that had been harshly cleaned, they would scratch an X into the coin. Their reasoning was that if there was anybody out there who could be taken advantage of by being sold a harshly cleaned coin because they wouldn't recognize it as such - they'd never miss the X - and thus they would be protected.

    Perhaps I miss my guess but I'd bet that was one of those coins.
     
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  12. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    Yep, cleaned and damaged.

    Interesting info, never knew about that.
     
  13. Justawesome

    Justawesome Active Member

    “if you have to ask if a coin is cleaned, it’s cleaned.”

    I'll be living by quote until i'd further educated. ...and the X mark was truly enlightening and a credit to the communities integrity.
     
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  14. COCollector

    COCollector Well-Known Member

    Fun pocket piece... let today's youngsters discover the sound & feel of 90% silver.
     
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