Damaged 1777 over 8 4 Reale & Mint Error Civil War Tokens

I have a couple coins I need some help with. The first is an old coin from my father's childhood collection, a 1777 over 8 Four Reale coin. The damage looks very old.



The Second is an NGC Graded Mint Error Civil War Token. It is easier for you to read the label than for me to type it out.



Thanks for any info!

 

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Anyone have any info, particularly on the 4R?

 

Wouldn't the first coin be a 1778 over 7?

And the second coin is exactly what it is..
A Partial Curved Clip.. What do you want to know?

 

Also known as a Incomplete Punch

I want to share the following information -
http://www.error-ref.com/incomplete-punch/

 

Approximately what it is worth. Not much out there like it that I can find.

 

On the partial clip.. That type of Mint Error is rare and do carry a big premium. I have never seen one on a Civil War Token so that would probably make it unique.. Well over $100.00 IMHO

 

Thanks.

 

I am just going to auction them on eBay and see how they do, cannot find anything on values for either, so I will let the market decide.

 

Will you post a link in the for sale section? I would like to put in a bid on that Real.

 

It will probably go up Thursday, but I would be happy to.