A few more coins that I think might be improperly annealed

If not please tell me the difference between toning and annealed I'm looking it up but it keeps showing other people's posts about improperly annealed coins and it's never right.

 

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I know there's a few different colored improperly annealed coins but how can I tell

 

looks like environmental damage. could have been under ground.

 

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Environmentally damaged coins but beautifully clean fingers.

 

They are Environmental Damage

Best way to determine if it's a Improperly Annealed is if it came out of a never opened roll from the Mint or a sealed bag. Most are already attributed and certified.

 

didn't you read the other thread of how to identify improperly annealed coins ?

 

Oh nice thanks lol

 

Yeah but now I'll never tell cause it's all going to be called tonning it has to be straight from a roll from a mint. So I'm done looking for those. Thanks all

 

Keep the search for those in circulation, no reason not to. It's just that you are more likely to find one in a sealed roll or bag than you are from random searching. And it will also be in better condition found in a roll or bag. My cent searching this week from bank wrapped rolls yield over 30 die clashes, 20 doubled dies and many more die cracks and chips. If I only searched brand new rolls or bags I would have missed all of these. One was a decent obverse 1998P doubled die. Also found 3 Woodies and two Railroad rim cents.

 

A rarity for sure when people post pictures of them holding coins

 

I seen many people on here holding coins and there fingers are dirty! Lol I make sure any thing looks half way decent in pictures lol

 

If a person handles coins with their bare fingers I would suspect that if they ever found a rare coin they would degrade it significantly with oils from their skin. Not a good habit to get into.

 

Fred Weinberg provided a great tip on how to ID an improperly annealed coin and somebody took the time to look up the links and shared it on your previous post about this topic. If you read them, why didn't you take pics of the edges?

Sorry to sound mean, but members set you up for a great learning opportunity (heck, I learned a lot from Fred's tips on this topic and I've been in this game for almost 50 years). You seemed to be making progress, since you first joined. Hopefully, Your response to @Clawcoins isn't an indication that you've given up on learning.

 

Improperly annealed will be darker and/or have spots sporting a copper-rust color, or could be pink, or grey, or black, or have spots of all those colors, or they can be all one color evenly...but they will all have some degree of Mint luster to them.

They get that way because they were heated (i.e. annealed) too long, and the planchets are heated to soften them for striking which also enhances their structure. Seeing that most coins have more copper than other metals, the reactions can be different in terms of colors they turn, and can even only turn colors on one side. Check out this one I own below

 

Yes I've done that already. And they all had different colored rims and still called it toning and environmental damage so you can't really tell still. And I'm all about learning I've learned so much on here since I started. I wouldn't know what I know now if I never came in here.

 

So I'm going to let it just come to me instead of acually looking for it. Seems to go that route for me. You you try to find something it won't come up only when you least expect it. It will come out of no were.

 

Should I wear gloves?

 

I wear light cotton gloves like you see people in museums wear. You can get them through most coins supply outlets. I think most collectors on this site wear them.

 

Sincere question - If the edges are a diff color, why didn't you post pics? Both your coins look like Environmental damage. Without the edge pics, that's the answer you're going to get.

BTW: The edges of an improperly annealed planchet (according to Fred W.) should look like a normal coin. Annealing only affects a thin surface layer of the metal. The pressure against the collar during striking will expose the underlying metal as it expands to fill the reeding. Nickels are more difficult, but there should be some areas of normal coloring where the metal rubs against the collar during ejection from the die. With so many opportunities for environmental damage, looking at the edge is the key diagnostic to identifying an improperly annealed planchet