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  1. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Any ideas about this CWT?
    Identification, grade & value?
     

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  3. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Does anyone know the CWT#?
    Also the Rarity?
     
  5. cwtokenman

    cwtokenman Coin Hoarder

    191/443a, R2 (2001-5000 known). Kanzinger valued this token at $13 in F/VF, $17 in XF and $25 in Unc in his 2002 book, which has become outdated pricewise over the past year or so. I would place it in the F/VF category.

    Are some of the letters of "YORK" recut or doubled? At first I thought it was a clashed die with that squiggle above "NEW", but it doesn't match the contour of the shield, so probably not.

    The "E.S." below the star/shield is the initials of Emil Siegel the diesinker of this token. His shop was located at 177 William Street , New York City, NY. Sigel was one of the most prolific diesinkers for Civil War tokens, with about 90 dies ascribed to him. His workmanship was typically of good quality, but he did not utilize much ornamentation in his designs. Most of his dies were of the Indian head obverse and "NOT ONE CENT" reverse style. Emil was also related to the somewhat obscure Union Major General Franz Sigel (The Hero of Pea Ridge), whom he immortalized on his die numbers 180 & 181. It is thought that Sigel traded dies with other engravers (since his dies are paired with signed dies of others). Charles D. Horter's shop was across the street, and Louis Roloff's shop was 2 blocks away.

    More than you asked for, sorry, I got carried away.
     
  6. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    CW TokenMan, it rocks having you around here !!!
     
  7. adelv_unegv

    adelv_unegv New Member


    . . . More than you asked for, sorry, I got carried away. . . .

    Dude, Are You Kidding???? That's the kind of info that cannot be found in books without a great deal of diggin' and buyin' of just the right books. Keep right on gettin carried away. Really. I don't mind a bit.
     
  8. cwtokenman

    cwtokenman Coin Hoarder

    adelv, Arizona (gotta love The Lincoln-ator), I am humbled by your responses. Thank you for your kind words.
     
  9. adelv_unegv

    adelv_unegv New Member

    Dude, don't be all humbled and such. You got knowledge. Like the Gordon Doug says, "Don't bogart that knowledge." Well, sumpin like that, anyway.
     
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    cw:
    Please-- get carried away anytime!

    Much thanks.
    Frank
     
  11. coinnut

    coinnut Senior Member

    cwtokenman,

    You helped me ID my cwt about 1 year ago.
    I read your response to this thread and am glad to see
    you are still around and offering the same thorough information
    (like you gave me) to others.

    Thanks for being here.
    :bow::bow::bow::bow::bow:
     
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