Barber 25C - 1911 D - Key Date with a Ding

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  1. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Hi all,
    I aquired some old silver coins and Buffalo Nickels from a coworker. I got this 1911 Barber Quarter minted in Denver. It's a Ket Date! Only 933,000 were struck there...
    Only problem it has is the ugly ding under the date on the rim. Would this affect it's value?
    I know it's not a MS coin and it has some weird dirty spots on the surface but thinking since it's a key date coin that it still could be desirable.. Maybe?
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    This is what has been said about this particular Barber Quarter

    Quote - "Numismatic vs Intrinsic Value: This coin in poor condition is still worth $7.42 more than the intrinsic value from silver content of $2.58, this coin is thus more valuable to a collector than to a silver bug. Coins worth more to a collectors may be a better long term investment. If the metal prices drop you will still have a coin that a numismatic would want to buy." closed quote - From CoinTrackers Website
     
  4. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    With that mintage, the coin may be closer to a semi-key date. In any event, that ding is definitely an issue and will decrease the value.
     
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The value is definitely lower but still above melt. I do have some bad news Paddy, it's not an error. It's PMD. Sorry, couldn't resist. :)
     
  6. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    That damage will definitely lower the value significantly.

    Also, though it is a low mintage, all other Barber Quarters pale in comparison to the famous and coveted 1901-S.
     
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  7. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    That coin does not have Fine details; I would call it VG-10 details.

    The rim bump hurts it (yes, a rim bump of that severity absolutely hurts the value), but the corrosion spots kill it.

    So, its VG details. I usually start at about half off with a details piece. Given that this is a scarcer date, that means that even in low grades it will still be worth something.

    So, I'd probably start at a value for that piece around $30, and work lower from there.
     
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  8. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    My 9016 Whitman be absent this one.
     
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  9. fiddlehead

    fiddlehead Well-Known Member

    The corrosion, which is really ugly, is far more of problem than the ding. If it looked decent but still had the ding it could be nice - but those spots! Give me the ding any day.
     
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  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Strange spots.

    And, agreed, a semi-key.
    Only 3 key date Barber quarters: 1896 S, 1901 S & 1313S
     
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  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Can you tell I'm really not a normal (non Mint Error) US coin collector? :sorry:
    I assumed it was a Key Date :hilarious:
     
  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    For an error guy you did good. It's a semi key and worth more than you paid. :)
     
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  13. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    Yep - a semi-key date. The ding isn't as bad as the corrosion spots. VG-10 Details, IMO.
     
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  14. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Wow, a 1313S Barber would really be something to see.
     
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  15. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    okay, so I erred.
    Join my wife in correcting me.

    :)
     
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  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    okay, so I erred.
    Join my wife in correcting me.

    :)
     
  17. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I view this differently. Assigning a description of Fine Details establishes the value of a problem-free coin, from which a lesser value may be determined for this coin. In my opinion, not accounting for the detractors, the details retained by this coin absolutely qualify it for a grade of Fine 12.

    I'd be very surprised if a retail buyer would not pay $50 for this coin.
     
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  18. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    I beg to differ. The damage AND the spots are going to prevent someone paying more than $40 at most, even with Fine details. One can buy problem free 8’s of this date for $50 or less.
     
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  19. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    In all my years of collecting and writing about coins, I've never before seen the 1911-D referred to as a key date. Or even a semi-key, for that matter. It's a little better than a common date, but in this condition, I wouldn't want it in a group of bullion coins. Hate to be a Debby Downer, and you can chalk it up to my sore back today.
     
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  20. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Perhaps I was not clear, or perhaps the very similar terminology led to confusion.

    What I mean was, I do not think this coin has the level of detail required for Fine. If it were problem free, I would say it has the detail required for VG-10.

    The problems then net the value down, for a VG-Details coin.
     
  21. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    Clarity was not the problem. I feel the coin possesses the requisite detail for a grade of F12.
     
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