Latest English Groat

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Mat, Sep 20, 2018.

  1. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    The latest addition to my English side collection is a Groat of Henry VI.

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    Henry VI (1422 - 1461 A.D.)
    AR Groat
    O: +HENRIC DI GRA REX ANGL Z FRANC / Crowned bust facing, with annulet on each side of neck.
    R: +POSVI DEVM ADIVTORE MEVM VILLA CALISIE / Long cross with three pellets in each angle, annulet in two quarters and after POSVI.
    Annulet issue. Calais mint; im: pierced cross 2. Struck 1422-1427.
    3.72g
    27mm
    North 1424; SCBC 1836
     
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  3. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    A lovely coin @Mat I really like the portrait. I only have a penny of his.

    Henry VI penny.jpg
     
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  4. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    amazing coin. what grade is it ? what is its value ?
     
  5. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Half a groat is tuppence.
     
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  6. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Thats a really nice one Mat.
     
  7. TheRed

    TheRed Well-Known Member

    That is a real nice one Mat. The bust of Henry us really attractive.
     
  8. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    @spirityoda It's not graded and prices vary on them.
     
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  9. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    ok what did you pay ?
     
  10. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    @spirityoda $90 shipped
     
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  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Cool, I think I might pay $90 for it, but I'd never buy it, or much of anything else, without seeing it in the hand coincident with the sale. Yes, that means I almost never buy ANYTHING numismatic OTHER THAN in person. Too many bad experiences to make remote business ever worth it for me. There ARE exceptions, but two things - 1) there aren't very many, but 2) most of them that there are are other CT members.
     
  12. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    I don't collect ancients yet, but that 1 looks familiar to me. I have not seen 1 with a portrait that nice before.
     
  13. alde

    alde Always Learning

    Nice coin Mat. I have this similar one. I really want a Henry VII profile groat.
    Henry VI Groat.jpg
     
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  14. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic


    @alde
    Love the toning on your Henry VI. I would like a Profile Henry VII Groat as well.

    I have this though.

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    Henry VII (1485 - 1509 A.D.)
    AR Groat
    O: hENRIC DI GRA REX AGL Z FRA, Crowned facing bust in tressure of arches; crown of two arches, outer jeweled (crown 4).
    R:pOSVI DEV ADIVTOR MEV CIVITAS LONDON, Long cross; trefoils in quarters, cross end 8, saltire stops, ‘coded’ stops 20/10.
    London mint; mm:anchor (upright). Struck 1499-1502.
    Class IIIc
    25mm
    3.03g
    Cf. SCBI 23 (Ashmolean), 363; North 1705c; SCBC 2199.
     
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  15. Bert Gedin

    Bert Gedin Well-Known Member

    img304.jpg Hi, Mat. Some detail here, but better do your own research.- A Groat is an English silver coin, and a 1972 British Dictionary says it's worth fourpence.- King Henry VI was proclaimed King of both England and France. He became temporarily insane, resulting in two parties rivalling for power. This led to civil war, "The War of the Roses". After King Henry died, suspected of having been murdered, Edward IV was re-crowned the morning after Henry's death. (Years and dates omitted here).
     
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